What's gone down in price?

[Foo3112]

Originally Posted by glynparson

Absolutely untrue. Everything has not come down. Sounds Ike some wishful thinking it is absolutely inaccurate. Yes many things have slid back some,market corrections are normal when things go up like that but not everything has slid back despite the wishes of some entitled collectors.

Okay, so we have a total of about 2 examples of cards and game tickets that have gone above from the Feb-Apr 2021 prices. So apparently 99.2% has come down and not everything.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Foo3112

Okay, so we have a total of about 2 examples of cards and game tickets that have gone above from the Feb-Apr 2021 prices. So apparently 99.2% has come down and not everything.

If we forget we are in the card section and get to compare it to memorabilia there are a LOT of examples of things going up. Not so much if we keep it to just cards. Baseball bats like store models and index/pro stock have gone up it what I buy.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Foo3112

Okay, so we have a total of about 2 examples of cards and game tickets that have gone above from the Feb-Apr 2021 prices. So apparently 99.2% has come down and not everything.

I feel many things are up since April. All graded t206s, 1914 cracker jacks, 1933 Goudey, especially in grades 5+. Everything Ruth, Wagner, Cobb, Jackson, Gehrig. Most things old and rare - look at the w600 Kelley that sold for $6000 last night; this is a card that has gone down consistently and steadily since 2008 and than set a record high last night (see first attachment)

It appears that many of the “herd” cards - iconic yet very common and mostly post 1940 - have gone down since April. But the big boy and rarer pre war cards, especially blue chip players and sets, most certainly are NOT down since April and continue to climb. This includes the T206 Green Cobb, which also set a record last in LOTG (see second attachment).

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I feel many things are up since April. All graded t206s, 1914 cracker jacks, 1933 Goudey, especially in grades 5+. Everything Ruth, Wagner, Cobb, Jackson, Gehrig. Most things old and rare - look at the w600 Kelley that sold for $6000 last night; this is a card that has gone down consistently and steadily since 2008 and than set a record high last night (see first attachment)

It appears that many of the “herd” cards - iconic yet very common and mostly post 1940 - have gone down since April. But the big boy and rarer pre war cards, especially blue chip players and sets, most certainly are NOT down since April and continue to climb. This includes the T206 Green Cobb, which also set a record last in LOTG (see second attachment).

I agree with most of what you say Ryan, but I have to disagree on this one. That was a stellar 3 and should have gone a little higher. And the collectors eyes were on it, so it didn't get overlooked. You know as much as anyone that all cards, in a specific grade, don't carry the same value. Sure a crappy looking 3 might get 10k-12k but a great looking one would have gone for more previously, imo...

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by Leon

I agree with most of what you say Ryan, but I have to disagree on this one. That was a stellar 3 and should have gone a little higher. And the collectors eyes were on it, so it didn't get overlooked. You know as much as anyone that all cards, in a specific grade, don't carry the same value. Sure a crappy looking 3 might get 10k-12k but a great looking one would have gone for more previously, imo...

The T206 Green Cobb Portrait in LOTG was actually a 2.5 with paper loss on the back in several spots. I think its $13,200.00 ending price was a very big number given those flaws.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

The T206 Green Cobb Portrait in LOTG was actually a 2.5 with paper loss on the back in several spots. I think its $13,200.00 ending price was a very big number given those flaws.

I wasn't bidding , and didn't take the back paper loss into account and was thinking it was a 3, for some reason. Given those thoughts I guess the price was a higher number..
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[Fred]

What's gone down in price? Apparently none of the crap I collect.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Fred

What's gone down in price? Apparently none of the crap I collect.

I'm in the same boat. The majority of cards on my want list keep rising in value.

It would be different if I was chasing the orange shimmer rainbow prism super-duper-fractor of that 19 year old sure-fire future Hall of Famer.

Alas, a T206 WaJo portrait (and others) keep climbing.

Now...where did I put that time machine?

[Exhibitman]

I follow Exhibit cards. The big boys in the 1920s issues (Ruth, Gehrig, Cobb, Johnson) and the rookies (PC Back Foxx, PC Back Grove) are very strong. What I've noticed marked jumps on lately are the lower grade examples of these players. The next tier of HOFers are a mixed bag. Speaker, Hornsby, Collins, Alexander, that caliber card. Lesser HOFers are basically bargains relative to other issues of the era. It is a little more difficult to follow these than T206s because there are relatively few of them and they don't come up in every auction. If two or more guys need the card for a set and it isn't easy, watch out.

LOTG last night was in line with the trends. PC Back Grove RC PSA 5 $8400. 1927 Cobb PSA 5 $2280. 1922 Eastern Exhibit (EE) Johnson PSA 3 $1560. 1922 EEs of Speaker, Hornsby and Alexander were between $500-$600. However, 1925 Collins PSA 2 $120, 1922 EEs Bancroft and Wheat were between $150-$250. Bidders went to war over a PSA 4 1922 Eastern Exhibit Heilmann $1440. It is a great card but there is no reason for him to sell for Cobb money. Had to be bidders warring for their sets.

[mrreality68]

I do not see any trend of downward pricing.

With so many auctions and so many cards and memorabilia hitting the auction I see the money being spent but sometimes people need to regroup their funds and/or sometimes some auctions get overlooked
And with many ending at the same time people have to be more controlled with what they are bidding on so sometimes items get less bids.

But overall the main players like Ruth, Cobb, wagner, and Jackson their cards are hot and even their “lesser known” cards are starting to increase in value as people are getting priced out of other cards

[sreader3]

Originally Posted by Leon

I wasn't bidding , and didn't take the back paper loss into account and was thinking it was a 3, for some reason. Given those thoughts I guess the price was a higher number..
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The Green Cobb prices in the Heritage November auctions were a little soft but it’s probably because there were eight of them offered and many were in the 2-3 range, i.e., saturation. Agreed that the LOTG Green Cobb 2.5 price was strong. Overall I think Green Cobb prices have been pretty stable after an incredible multi-year run.

[glynparson]

Originally Posted by Foo3112

Okay, so we have a total of about 2 examples of cards and game tickets that have gone above from the Feb-Apr 2021 prices. So apparently 99.2% has come down and not everything.

People have listed a lot more than two examples. Your statement was BS. You were wrong just stfu.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by glynparson

People have listed a lot more than two examples. Your statement was BS. You were wrong just stfu.

It is not a matter of who is right or not but more about us all being informed and better understanding of the trends to help us each make better collection and/or investment decisions

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

It is not a matter of who is right or not but more about us all being informed and better understanding of the trends to help us each make better collection and/or investment decisions

With Glyn it is all about the cash and being an AH pick POS that hasn't made a helpful post on here in years. He is proof if a person needs a card they would buy it from anyone no matter how horrible of person they buying it from is. He does provide humor if you find him calling good people a liar or scammer and when he is proven wrong he just disappears from the forum for a while instead of manning up and apologizeing. If anyone is bored just check out is posting history it is beyond amazing how big a AH he is on here.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by bnorth

With Glyn it is all about the cash and being an AH pick POS that hasn't made a helpful post on here in years. He is proof if a person needs a card they would buy it from anyone no matter how horrible of person they buying it from is. He does provide humor if you find him calling good people a liar or scammer and when he is proven wrong he just disappears from the forum for a while instead of manning up and apologizeing. If anyone is bored just check out is posting history it is beyond amazing how big a AH he is on here.

I hope he disappears for a while (or forever). Every time I read one of his posts I feel worse about the world.

[egri]

Originally Posted by bnorth

With Glyn it is all about the cash and being an AH pick POS that hasn't made a helpful post on here in years. He is proof if a person needs a card they would buy it from anyone no matter how horrible of person they buying it from is. He does provide humor if you find him calling good people a liar or scammer and when he is proven wrong he just disappears from the forum for a while instead of manning up and apologizeing. If anyone is bored just check out is posting history it is beyond amazing how big a AH he is on here.

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

I hope he disappears for a while (or forever). Every time I read one of his posts I feel worse about the world.

I put him on my Ignore List a while back. The forum has gotten much more enjoyable since then.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by egri

I put him on my Ignore List a while back. The forum has gotten much more enjoyable since then.

When you say you put him on your ignore list, is that an actual function of this forum, or are you just consciously ignoring him? If it is an actual function, I would really appreciate it if you could show me how to do that.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

I hope he disappears for a while (or forever). Every time I read one of his posts I feel worse about the world.

He is angry for some reason. I would hate to be in that kind of mood every day.
What a miserable way to go around life.
* I should add Glyn and I get along very well in person. But sometimes on the board I am not so sure.
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[Harford20]

What I have seen is a trend toward AH purchases. Of my own purchases, 2-3 years ago, I found the majority (probably 75%) of the cards that I was interested in on eBay or the BST. Since the 2021 run-up, finding cards for my collection from these sources has almost dried up (especially eBay, but also BST to some extent). Now I use the AH's for about 75% of my cards. Purchases of the cards from the AH's have "cost me more", so looking at the price numbers, most of my purchases are certainly up from 2 years ago, but most if not all of my "new" cards from AH purchases are still at Jan-April 2021 prices. I have not seen any drop here, to the point that I have had to ALTER my collecting plans.

Dave

[Foo3112]

Originally Posted by glynparson

People have listed a lot more than two examples. Your statement was BS. You were wrong just stfu.

You sound like a complete prick and then when I read about what others have to say about you, it appears I’m correct. Appears you don’t have many friends here. Please follow the advice of others and just go away.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Foo3112

You sound like a complete prick and then when I read about what others have to say about you, it appears I’m correct. Appears you don’t have many friends here. Please follow the advice of others and just go away.

To be fair, this reply of yours wasn't much nicer.

[Foo3112]

Originally Posted by Eric72

To be fair, this reply of yours wasn't much nicer.

That would be a fair assessment. Anywho, I'm over it. I guess that's just how good ol' Glyn Parson speaks. Moving on back to the subject of cards...

[Carter08]

The e93 Cobb I wanted on REA has decidedly NOT gone down in price. Above where I was hoping it would end with 6 days to go. Sigh.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by Carter08

The e93 Cobb I wanted on REA has decidedly NOT gone down in price. Above where I was hoping it would end with 6 days to go. Sigh.

Great Card and you are right the price is strong on that card already and that REA auction has alot of strong prices.
No showing of any dips in pricing to buy

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Foo3112

That would be a fair assessment. Anywho, I'm over it. I guess that's just how good ol' Glyn Parson speaks. Moving on back to the subject of cards...

It takes all kinds to make this board go 'round. There are a few who come straight at you.

Some people go the backhanded compliment route, some insist on getting the last word in, some try to gloss over their rudeness by attempting to redirect attention...

[egri]

Originally Posted by Eric72

It takes all kinds to make this board go 'round. There are a few who come straight at you.

Some people go the backhanded compliment route, some insist on getting the last word in, some try to gloss over their rudeness by attempting to redirect attention...

Pot, meet kettle.

[glynparson]

Originally Posted by Eric72

It takes all kinds to make this board go 'round. There are a few who come straight at you.

Some people go the backhanded compliment route, some insist on getting the last word in, some try to gloss over their rudeness by attempting to redirect attention...

I just tell it like it is and if you don’t like that I truly don’t care. Not here to massage your fragile egos. After my health concerns I truly quit caring what fools and idiots think of me.