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Old 11-28-2021, 07:25 AM
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Absolutely untrue. Everything has not come down. Sounds Ike some wishful thinking it is absolutely inaccurate. Yes many things have slid back some,market corrections are normal when things go up like that but not everything has slid back despite the wishes of some entitled collectors.
Perhaps you could provide an example of something that has gone up since the Feb/April peaks? Perhaps a PSA link?
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I think green T206 Cobbys have fallen a little...

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Hi Leon, I have to disagree here...Heritage just had several examples, prices were strong, and last night in LOTG, a 2.5 sold for over $13k. I thought that was a very strong price.

Also, someone mentioned Jeter's SP Rookie...It's definitely come down since the peak earlier this year (like most modern cards, including Jordan), but Modern rose significantly, peaked, then came down and have settled well above where they were a few years ago.

Re: blue chip vintage (T206 HOFers/rare backs, 33 Goudey Ruths, Cracker Jacks, etc, etc), well they've only gone up and up...

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Perhaps you could provide an example of something that has gone up since the Feb/April peaks? Perhaps a PSA link?

What’s going to happen If the investor exits the card market ??
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Old 11-28-2021, 09:53 AM
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What’s going to happen If the investor exits the card market ??
They'll come back after price dropped for another entry point
I think now it's a great time to buy the dip before another uprun. Maybe a year, maybe 2.
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What’s going to happen If the investor exits the card market ??
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IMO high grade Stan Musial cards are showing some signs of upward momentum as well as T200 Fatima Cleveland with J Jax himself, casually leaning on his bat. This card could soar.
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Perhaps you could provide an example of something that has gone up since the Feb/April peaks? Perhaps a PSA link?
PSA graded tickets immediately come to mind. Some tickets are 10x since Feb/Mar.
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PSA graded tickets immediately come to mind. Some tickets are 10x since Feb/Mar.
I've noticed this, too.

Totally off on this tangent, because prices are definitely up not down over the last two years (the question in the OP), but....

Original photos (particularly PSA authenticated ones) also seem to be quite strong now. While it's harder to make exact comparisons due to lack of grading, I had a more than a dozen photos in the Love of the Game auction that ended last night and (with only a couple of exceptions) the prices were much higher than I would have expected in Feb/Mar/April. Similarly, the two photos I wanted to buy also sold for much more than I believe I could have bought them for earlier.
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I've noticed this, too.

Totally off on this tangent, because prices are definitely up not down over the last two years (the question in the OP), but....

Original photos (particularly PSA authenticated ones) also seem to be quite strong now. While it's harder to make exact comparisons due to lack of grading, I had a more than a dozen photos in the Love of the Game auction that ended last night and (with only a couple of exceptions) the prices were much higher than I would have expected in Feb/Mar/April. Similarly, the two photos I wanted to buy also sold for much more than I believe I could have bought them for earlier.
Photos are (were?) bargains compared to cards. That is definitely not the case now, at least on primo ones. Regardless of PSA 'blessing', they are way up. But not all. Look at RMY last night. Stellar images and well-documented ones were often in four figures, but slightly lesser can go for a few hundred dollars.
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Old 11-28-2021, 09:59 AM
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Photos are (were?) bargains compared to cards. That is definitely not the case now, at least on primo ones. Regardless of PSA 'blessing', they are way up. But not all. Look at RMY last night. Stellar images and well-documented ones were often in four figures, but slightly lesser can go for a few hundred dollars.
Agreed. One thing I've wondered about quite a bit lately is how much of the difference in price between lesser and those primo photos is due to across-the-board demand and how much of price differences can be attributed to amplification of random quirks due to the very thinness of the market for photos (increased chances of only one serious bidder, market being saturated by just a couple of items, etc).

Last night, I had a 1923 Ruth portrait that I thought was stellar and probably wouldn't have sold for less than $3K go for $1800 but had (admittedly nice...but not Ruth!) photos of Ted Williams and Pee Wee Reese sell for for $7200 and $4800 respectively and some really lesser photos (just original news service photos) reach $600-900. I very rarely see that happen with cards, where auctions seem uniformly well followed. With photos, it happens all the time...just a crapshoot if you get two interested parties at the same auction.
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PSA graded tickets immediately come to mind. Some tickets are 10x since Feb/Mar.
You beat me to the punch as I was just going to post that.

Small example: I had been searching for a 1927 World Series game 1 ticket (Pop 21) after I failed to win one for around $500 a year plus ago. Three have come up for auction the last year and they sold for $2k-$3k. A graded version has a BIN for $10k (which I assume will sit there for a while). I was happy to land the one on Love of the Game today.

Maybe a general statement that some memorabilia has seemed to jump in price. We have seen some type 1 photos, tickets, bats (although I have not been watching them particularly). We have seen a few threads of collectors here that have shifted focus a bit to memorabilia since it is a little more affordable, so I am sure that is a reason.
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Perhaps you could provide an example of something that has gone up since the Feb/April peaks? Perhaps a PSA link?
Sample is only 1, but Ruth Goudeys #53 and #144 have gone up since April in mid-grade.
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As folks have mentioned earlier, the Jordan RC has come down significantly since its spring peak. Just to add some numbers to the discussion, earlier this year, a PSA 8 was bringing upwards of $18k; now they are trading at $8k or less.

But while I don't have the numbers in front of me, I'd bet that they are still above what they were two years ago at the end of 2019.
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As folks have mentioned earlier, the Jordan RC has come down significantly since its spring peak. Just to add some numbers to the discussion, earlier this year, a PSA 8 was bringing upwards of $18k; now they are trading at $8k or less.

But while I don't have the numbers in front of me, I'd bet that they are still above what they were two years ago at the end of 2019.
Will be interesting to see how the PSA backlog is going to affect these cards. I'm guessing it won't be good.

That's the insane thing about some of these modern cards . . . . who knows how many more PSA 10s are sitting in unopened cases in people's closets.

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Will be interesting to see how the PSA backlog is going to affect these cards. I'm guessing it won't be good.

That's the insane thing about some of these modern cards . . . . who knows how many more PSA 10s are sitting in unopened cases in people's closets.
You think there are many 1986 fleer basketball cases in closests? Lol. I’d tell you to stick to prewar but you say dumb crap about that market as well. These aren’t 1986 topps baseball cases.
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As folks have mentioned earlier, the Jordan RC has come down significantly since its spring peak. Just to add some numbers to the discussion, earlier this year, a PSA 8 was bringing upwards of $18k; now they are trading at $8k or less.

But while I don't have the numbers in front of me, I'd bet that they are still above what they were two years ago at the end of 2019.
You are right, that was a $2500 card 3 years ago. So it has tripled in the last 3 years.

And by the way that is the story of the whole modern basketball market. For example, I have an Iverson rookie that I bought for $200 5 years ago. It ran all the way up to $4000, and then dropped back down to $1500.

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