What's gone down in price?

[Foo3112]

Everything has come down since the peak (Feb-April 2021) but everything is still higher than what it was from late 2019.

[glynparson]

Originally Posted by Foo3112

Everything has come down since the peak (Feb-April 2021) but everything is still higher than what it was from late 2019.

Absolutely untrue. Everything has not come down. Sounds Ike some wishful thinking it is absolutely inaccurate. Yes many things have slid back some,market corrections are normal when things go up like that but not everything has slid back despite the wishes of some entitled collectors.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by glynparson

Absolutely untrue. Everything has not come down. Sounds Ike some wishful thinking it is absolutely inaccurate. Yes many things have slid back some,market corrections are normal when things go up like that but not everything has slid back despite the wishes of some entitled collectors.

Perhaps you could provide an example of something that has gone up since the Feb/April peaks? Perhaps a PSA link?

[Leon]

I think green T206 Cobbys have fallen a little...

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[MVSNYC]

Originally Posted by Leon

I think green T206 Cobbys have fallen a little...

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Hi Leon, I have to disagree here...Heritage just had several examples, prices were strong, and last night in LOTG, a 2.5 sold for over $13k. I thought that was a very strong price.

Also, someone mentioned Jeter's SP Rookie...It's definitely come down since the peak earlier this year (like most modern cards, including Jordan), but Modern rose significantly, peaked, then came down and have settled well above where they were a few years ago.

Re: blue chip vintage (T206 HOFers/rare backs, 33 Goudey Ruths, Cracker Jacks, etc, etc), well they've only gone up and up...

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Perhaps you could provide an example of something that has gone up since the Feb/April peaks? Perhaps a PSA link?

What’s going to happen If the investor exits the card market ??

[dio]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

What’s going to happen If the investor exits the card market ??

They'll come back after price dropped for another entry point
I think now it's a great time to buy the dip before another uprun. Maybe a year, maybe 2.

[obcbobd]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

What’s going to happen If the investor exits the card market ??

I will dance a jig :-)

[Yoda]

IMO high grade Stan Musial cards are showing some signs of upward momentum as well as T200 Fatima Cleveland with J Jax himself, casually leaning on his bat. This card could soar.

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Perhaps you could provide an example of something that has gone up since the Feb/April peaks? Perhaps a PSA link?

PSA graded tickets immediately come to mind. Some tickets are 10x since Feb/Mar.

[Frankish]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

PSA graded tickets immediately come to mind. Some tickets are 10x since Feb/Mar.

I've noticed this, too.

Totally off on this tangent, because prices are definitely up not down over the last two years (the question in the OP), but....

Original photos (particularly PSA authenticated ones) also seem to be quite strong now. While it's harder to make exact comparisons due to lack of grading, I had a more than a dozen photos in the Love of the Game auction that ended last night and (with only a couple of exceptions) the prices were much higher than I would have expected in Feb/Mar/April. Similarly, the two photos I wanted to buy also sold for much more than I believe I could have bought them for earlier.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Frankish

I've noticed this, too.

Totally off on this tangent, because prices are definitely up not down over the last two years (the question in the OP), but....

Original photos (particularly PSA authenticated ones) also seem to be quite strong now. While it's harder to make exact comparisons due to lack of grading, I had a more than a dozen photos in the Love of the Game auction that ended last night and (with only a couple of exceptions) the prices were much higher than I would have expected in Feb/Mar/April. Similarly, the two photos I wanted to buy also sold for much more than I believe I could have bought them for earlier.

Photos are (were?) bargains compared to cards. That is definitely not the case now, at least on primo ones. Regardless of PSA 'blessing', they are way up. But not all. Look at RMY last night. Stellar images and well-documented ones were often in four figures, but slightly lesser can go for a few hundred dollars.

[Frankish]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Photos are (were?) bargains compared to cards. That is definitely not the case now, at least on primo ones. Regardless of PSA 'blessing', they are way up. But not all. Look at RMY last night. Stellar images and well-documented ones were often in four figures, but slightly lesser can go for a few hundred dollars.

Agreed. One thing I've wondered about quite a bit lately is how much of the difference in price between lesser and those primo photos is due to across-the-board demand and how much of price differences can be attributed to amplification of random quirks due to the very thinness of the market for photos (increased chances of only one serious bidder, market being saturated by just a couple of items, etc).

Last night, I had a 1923 Ruth portrait that I thought was stellar and probably wouldn't have sold for less than $3K go for $1800 but had (admittedly nice...but not Ruth!) photos of Ted Williams and Pee Wee Reese sell for for $7200 and $4800 respectively and some really lesser photos (just original news service photos) reach $600-900. I very rarely see that happen with cards, where auctions seem uniformly well followed. With photos, it happens all the time...just a crapshoot if you get two interested parties at the same auction.

[Schlesinj]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

PSA graded tickets immediately come to mind. Some tickets are 10x since Feb/Mar.

You beat me to the punch as I was just going to post that.

Small example: I had been searching for a 1927 World Series game 1 ticket (Pop 21) after I failed to win one for around $500 a year plus ago. Three have come up for auction the last year and they sold for $2k-$3k. A graded version has a BIN for $10k (which I assume will sit there for a while). I was happy to land the one on Love of the Game today.

Maybe a general statement that some memorabilia has seemed to jump in price. We have seen some type 1 photos, tickets, bats (although I have not been watching them particularly). We have seen a few threads of collectors here that have shifted focus a bit to memorabilia since it is a little more affordable, so I am sure that is a reason.

[Johnny630]

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[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Perhaps you could provide an example of something that has gone up since the Feb/April peaks? Perhaps a PSA link?

Sample is only 1, but Ruth Goudeys #53 and #144 have gone up since April in mid-grade.
https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...ues/237936#g=4
https://www.psacard.com/auctionprice...ues/238055#g=5

[Bigdaddy]

As folks have mentioned earlier, the Jordan RC has come down significantly since its spring peak. Just to add some numbers to the discussion, earlier this year, a PSA 8 was bringing upwards of $18k; now they are trading at $8k or less.

But while I don't have the numbers in front of me, I'd bet that they are still above what they were two years ago at the end of 2019.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

As folks have mentioned earlier, the Jordan RC has come down significantly since its spring peak. Just to add some numbers to the discussion, earlier this year, a PSA 8 was bringing upwards of $18k; now they are trading at $8k or less.

But while I don't have the numbers in front of me, I'd bet that they are still above what they were two years ago at the end of 2019.

Will be interesting to see how the PSA backlog is going to affect these cards. I'm guessing it won't be good.

That's the insane thing about some of these modern cards . . . . who knows how many more PSA 10s are sitting in unopened cases in people's closets.

[glynparson]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Will be interesting to see how the PSA backlog is going to affect these cards. I'm guessing it won't be good.

That's the insane thing about some of these modern cards . . . . who knows how many more PSA 10s are sitting in unopened cases in people's closets.

You think there are many 1986 fleer basketball cases in closests? Lol. I’d tell you to stick to prewar but you say dumb crap about that market as well. These aren’t 1986 topps baseball cases.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by Bigdaddy

As folks have mentioned earlier, the Jordan RC has come down significantly since its spring peak. Just to add some numbers to the discussion, earlier this year, a PSA 8 was bringing upwards of $18k; now they are trading at $8k or less.

But while I don't have the numbers in front of me, I'd bet that they are still above what they were two years ago at the end of 2019.

You are right, that was a $2500 card 3 years ago. So it has tripled in the last 3 years.

And by the way that is the story of the whole modern basketball market. For example, I have an Iverson rookie that I bought for $200 5 years ago. It ran all the way up to $4000, and then dropped back down to $1500.

[Foo3112]

Originally Posted by glynparson

Absolutely untrue. Everything has not come down. Sounds Ike some wishful thinking it is absolutely inaccurate. Yes many things have slid back some,market corrections are normal when things go up like that but not everything has slid back despite the wishes of some entitled collectors.

Okay, so we have a total of about 2 examples of cards and game tickets that have gone above from the Feb-Apr 2021 prices. So apparently 99.2% has come down and not everything.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Foo3112

Okay, so we have a total of about 2 examples of cards and game tickets that have gone above from the Feb-Apr 2021 prices. So apparently 99.2% has come down and not everything.

If we forget we are in the card section and get to compare it to memorabilia there are a LOT of examples of things going up. Not so much if we keep it to just cards. Baseball bats like store models and index/pro stock have gone up it what I buy.

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Foo3112

Okay, so we have a total of about 2 examples of cards and game tickets that have gone above from the Feb-Apr 2021 prices. So apparently 99.2% has come down and not everything.

I feel many things are up since April. All graded t206s, 1914 cracker jacks, 1933 Goudey, especially in grades 5+. Everything Ruth, Wagner, Cobb, Jackson, Gehrig. Most things old and rare - look at the w600 Kelley that sold for $6000 last night; this is a card that has gone down consistently and steadily since 2008 and than set a record high last night (see first attachment)

It appears that many of the “herd” cards - iconic yet very common and mostly post 1940 - have gone down since April. But the big boy and rarer pre war cards, especially blue chip players and sets, most certainly are NOT down since April and continue to climb. This includes the T206 Green Cobb, which also set a record last in LOTG (see second attachment).

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I feel many things are up since April. All graded t206s, 1914 cracker jacks, 1933 Goudey, especially in grades 5+. Everything Ruth, Wagner, Cobb, Jackson, Gehrig. Most things old and rare - look at the w600 Kelley that sold for $6000 last night; this is a card that has gone down consistently and steadily since 2008 and than set a record high last night (see first attachment)

It appears that many of the “herd” cards - iconic yet very common and mostly post 1940 - have gone down since April. But the big boy and rarer pre war cards, especially blue chip players and sets, most certainly are NOT down since April and continue to climb. This includes the T206 Green Cobb, which also set a record last in LOTG (see second attachment).

I agree with most of what you say Ryan, but I have to disagree on this one. That was a stellar 3 and should have gone a little higher. And the collectors eyes were on it, so it didn't get overlooked. You know as much as anyone that all cards, in a specific grade, don't carry the same value. Sure a crappy looking 3 might get 10k-12k but a great looking one would have gone for more previously, imo...

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by Leon

I agree with most of what you say Ryan, but I have to disagree on this one. That was a stellar 3 and should have gone a little higher. And the collectors eyes were on it, so it didn't get overlooked. You know as much as anyone that all cards, in a specific grade, don't carry the same value. Sure a crappy looking 3 might get 10k-12k but a great looking one would have gone for more previously, imo...

The T206 Green Cobb Portrait in LOTG was actually a 2.5 with paper loss on the back in several spots. I think its $13,200.00 ending price was a very big number given those flaws.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by 3-2-count

The T206 Green Cobb Portrait in LOTG was actually a 2.5 with paper loss on the back in several spots. I think its $13,200.00 ending price was a very big number given those flaws.

I wasn't bidding , and didn't take the back paper loss into account and was thinking it was a 3, for some reason. Given those thoughts I guess the price was a higher number..
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[glynparson]

Originally Posted by Foo3112

Okay, so we have a total of about 2 examples of cards and game tickets that have gone above from the Feb-Apr 2021 prices. So apparently 99.2% has come down and not everything.

People have listed a lot more than two examples. Your statement was BS. You were wrong just stfu.

[mrreality68]

Originally Posted by glynparson

People have listed a lot more than two examples. Your statement was BS. You were wrong just stfu.

It is not a matter of who is right or not but more about us all being informed and better understanding of the trends to help us each make better collection and/or investment decisions

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by mrreality68

It is not a matter of who is right or not but more about us all being informed and better understanding of the trends to help us each make better collection and/or investment decisions

With Glyn it is all about the cash and being an AH pick POS that hasn't made a helpful post on here in years. He is proof if a person needs a card they would buy it from anyone no matter how horrible of person they buying it from is. He does provide humor if you find him calling good people a liar or scammer and when he is proven wrong he just disappears from the forum for a while instead of manning up and apologizeing. If anyone is bored just check out is posting history it is beyond amazing how big a AH he is on here.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by bnorth

With Glyn it is all about the cash and being an AH pick POS that hasn't made a helpful post on here in years. He is proof if a person needs a card they would buy it from anyone no matter how horrible of person they buying it from is. He does provide humor if you find him calling good people a liar or scammer and when he is proven wrong he just disappears from the forum for a while instead of manning up and apologizeing. If anyone is bored just check out is posting history it is beyond amazing how big a AH he is on here.

I hope he disappears for a while (or forever). Every time I read one of his posts I feel worse about the world.

[Foo3112]

Originally Posted by glynparson

People have listed a lot more than two examples. Your statement was BS. You were wrong just stfu.

You sound like a complete prick and then when I read about what others have to say about you, it appears I’m correct. Appears you don’t have many friends here. Please follow the advice of others and just go away.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Foo3112

You sound like a complete prick and then when I read about what others have to say about you, it appears I’m correct. Appears you don’t have many friends here. Please follow the advice of others and just go away.

To be fair, this reply of yours wasn't much nicer.

[Foo3112]

Originally Posted by Eric72

To be fair, this reply of yours wasn't much nicer.

That would be a fair assessment. Anywho, I'm over it. I guess that's just how good ol' Glyn Parson speaks. Moving on back to the subject of cards...