SGC no longer grading t206s?

[wazoo]

Originally Posted by nineunder71

SGC received and logged 12 T206s from me YESTERDAY

I believe the correct discussion here should evolve around whether SGC continues to accept and grade blank back T206s, or not?

Apparently they don't. Although they told me a month before I submitted them that they do. A catalogued t206 card that has been slabbed forever by SGC. Easy to tell as well. But I'm not salty

[Rhotchkiss]

My guess is there is a typo in that email and that perhaps Brent was typing too fast an left out "blank back" or some prefix-statement to the phrase "T206's"

That said, its annoying if they are no longer slabbing blank backs. Not sure why they would stop; frankly, not sure how many unslabbed blank-backs are still out there. I

[nineunder71]

Good point Ryan, probably not many, which makes the re-holder thought even more intriguing

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

My guess is there is a typo in that email and that perhaps Brent was typing too fast an left out "blank back" or some prefix-statement to the phrase "T206's"

That said, its annoying if they are no longer slabbing blank backs. Not sure why they would stop; frankly, not sure how many unslabbed blank-backs are still out there. I

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

My guess is there is a typo in that email and that perhaps Brent was typing too fast an left out "blank back" or some prefix-statement to the phrase "T206's"

That said, its annoying if they are no longer slabbing blank backs. Not sure why they would stop; frankly, not sure how many unslabbed blank-backs are still out there. I

I still think they don't know WTF they are doing and have little confidence in them anymore. Dismal knowledge if you ask me.
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[cammb]

Check out the video that SGC put out showing their grading process. The graders look fresh out of college. This is what's grading our cards. I have been saying fow awhile now that there is a prejudice against vintage while modern gets all of the high grades. I am sort of a hypocrite because I still will be using SGC because I really hate PSA.

[3-2-count]

Originally Posted by cammb

Check out the video that SGC put out showing their grading process. The graders look fresh out of college. This is what's grading our cards. I have been saying fow awhile now that there is a prejudice against vintage while modern gets all of the high grades. I am sort of a hypocrite because I still will be using SGC because I really hate PSA.

It’s not any different at PSA?

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by cammb

...The graders look fresh out of college. This is what's grading our cards...

I'd be careful with passing judgment on someone simply because they're part of a particular age cohort. Our very own wazoo was born around the same time as those graders...and I would trust him to grade a T206 accurately.

[jchcollins]

I wouldn't be surprised at much of what they say or do anymore. SGC around the start of the bubble / pandemic tried to make a grab for market share based on new cards and new money. They left their legacy of being the small collector's vintage grader of choice behind. All the execs are young, and they want to be the next PSA. In the summer of 2020, I got valuable cards back slabbed with defective inserts that had plastic shards sticking into card edges. At that point, enough was enough. SGC slabs look great, and a properly graded vintage card from them is still (generally) a thing of beauty - but I'm done at this point.

[wazoo]

Originally Posted by Eric72

I'd be careful with passing judgment on someone simply because they're part of a particular age cohort. Our very own wazoo was born around the same time as those graders...and I would trust him to grade a T206 accurately.

Wow thanks Eric! Appreciate the kind words. Made my day

[cammb]

Originally Posted by Eric72

I'd be careful with passing judgment on someone simply because they're part of a particular age cohort. Our very own wazoo was born around the same time as those graders...and I would trust him to grade a T206 accurately.

I don’t know wazoo nor do I know anything about his expertise

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by cammb

I don’t know wazoo nor do I know anything about his expertise

I'm not picking on you or singling you out. However, our brief exchange reminded me of something. Pardon me for "thinking out loud" here.

With the recent influx of younger collectors into the hobby, it won't be long until there are large numbers of twenty-somethings with experience and expertise in vintage. Modern (and "ultra-modern") cards tend to be a gateway into older material. It stands to reason the boom of 2020 will lead to a significant increase in the amount of hobbyists who venture over to our side of the sandbox. If even a small fraction of these newcomers are in it for the long haul, it likely leads to at least two things:

1. A new generation of vintage collectors, which could theoretically keep the hobby going for decades
2. A new generation of experts on the horizon

Of course, this doesn't help SGC with T206 (or other vintage) cards right now. However, it does give me confidence in the long-term health of the vintage card market.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by cammb

I don’t know wazoo nor do I know anything about his expertise

I think that's kinda the point...

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by cammb

Check out the video that SGC put out showing their grading process. The graders look fresh out of college. This is what's grading our cards. I have been saying fow awhile now that there is a prejudice against vintage while modern gets all of the high grades. I am sort of a hypocrite because I still will be using SGC because I really hate PSA.

What would you expect? It's not like they're paying $40/hr to get 35-year old white collar workers.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by cammb

Check out the video that SGC put out showing their grading process. The graders look fresh out of college. This is what's grading our cards. I have been saying fow awhile now that there is a prejudice against vintage while modern gets all of the high grades. I am sort of a hypocrite because I still will be using SGC because I really hate PSA.

Since most cards sell based on the flip, even with premiums for the high end of the grade in theory there should be some great opportunities out there. Sucks if you're submitting, is great if you're mostly a buyer.

[nineunder71]

Josh,
I heard about your submission! That sucks man. I know a few whom plan to submit and keep trying to get them slabbed. If they hold strong to this, I’m wondering how they will treat a blank back re-holder? Can I still get a previously graded one in a new slab? Crappy ordeal

Great to see you take a good attitude about it though!

Cheers

Originally Posted by wazoo

Apparently they don't. Although they told me a month before I submitted them that they do. A catalogued t206 card that has been slabbed forever by SGC. Easy to tell as well. But I'm not salty