Dallas Card Show - Fake Slabs

[Exhibitman]

My understanding from other videos is that the MBA stickers were legitimate and that the guy who got arrested was freed 20 minutes later.

[philo98]

Having lived in Asia for decades, counterfeits are everywhere, and as you know China dominates in this category. In fact, there is generally a 1-10 scale given on how good the fake is. China fakes everything and has really started to increase their fakes on sportscards and Pokeman, etc especially with the way the collectibles market is today. Most likely, the flood of these fakes into the US has just begun.

Whenever I am in China, I only buy from very few suppliers, include grocery stores I go to. This is a country that has fake lettuce, fake eggs, fake contact lens solution, fake cars, fake iphones etc etc. Not only do they fake the iphone, but there are also fake Apple stores which can be extremely difficult to tell if its one of the high quality fakes. The fakes that are very high quality, even the experts cannot tell the difference between what is real and not real.

[Eric72]

Great. PSA graded lettuce.

[Rich Klein]

Ryan Nolan (and yes that's his name) has also authored a book on card fakes which has sold remarkably well. A really good young man and he travels to a lot of shows so he is aware of these issues more than 99 percent of us on this board.

https://www.amazon.com/Spotting-Fake.../dp/B09MYST97Q

Link to his book. As noted it's sold enough that he is out of his personal allotment.

Rich

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by philo98

Having lived in Asia for decades, counterfeits are everywhere, and as you know China dominates in this category. In fact, there is generally a 1-10 scale given on how good the fake is. China fakes everything and has really started to increase their fakes on sportscards and Pokeman, etc especially with the way the collectibles market is today. Most likely, the flood of these fakes into the US has just begun.

Whenever I am in China, I only buy from very few suppliers, include grocery stores I go to. This is a country that has fake lettuce, fake eggs, fake contact lens solution, fake cars, fake iphones etc etc. Not only do they fake the iphone, but there are also fake Apple stores which can be extremely difficult to tell if its one of the high quality fakes. The fakes that are very high quality, even the experts cannot tell the difference between what is real and not real.

It is crazy but yes almost everything in China is faked. When you go to Beijing you take 2 large suitcases. One, half full of clothes for the trip and the other 1 1/2 full of gifts for family. I know several computers/electronics have made one way trips over the last 20+ years. Then the suitcases come back full of moon cakes and other food items we can't get out in the middle of nowhere USA.

Fake slabs have been around for a very long time and many have been coming from Asia for years.

[Johnny630]

The good thing about the Dallas show is mask aren’t mandatory makes it easier to describe the suspect/perps.

[Tao_Moko]

What in the hell is a MBA sticker? Oh nevermind. I'm going back to my mid grade vintage world of raw fat bordered cards. They don't have stickers.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

My understanding from other videos is that the MBA stickers were legitimate and that the guy who got arrested was freed 20 minutes later.

A follow up video posted on blowout said that the stickers were printed silver instead of foil coating, so they are counterfeit labels. One video said Mike Baker was consulted and answered he did not review the Jordan rookies. Maybe a real news story will come out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrCIIsbYpGU

[Peter_Spaeth]

Who cares about a MBA sticker anyhow?

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Who cares about a MBA sticker anyhow?

Since every company (even brand new ones) cost a minimum of $30ish per card with months long turnaround times, stuff like this is attempting to fill the gaps.
There's a buyer for everything in this Base Card World we live in.

[butchie_t]

Ugh,

It is getting to a point, probably passed the point now where you cannot trust anything in a PSA slab (except maybe lettuce). PSA may very well be the leader today, but if crap like this continues, their rep will be the one that gets the booty call from up above.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by butchie_t

Ugh,

It is getting to a point, probably passed the point now where you cannot trust anything in a PSA slab (except maybe lettuce). PSA may very well be the leader today, but if crap like this continues, their rep will be the one that gets the booty call from up above.

Now we...well everyone but snowman...have to look for altered cards in holders and possibly determine if the holders themselves are fake. Collecting feels more like shoveling snow than a hobby.

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Now we...well everyone but snowman...have to look for altered cards in holders and possibly determine if the holders themselves are fake. Collecting feels more like shoveling snow than a hobby.

When getting graded material, I always examine the card and the slab. I've been doing this for years.

Shortly after joining this board, I read about the fake slabs presumably coming out of Mexico. It seemed serious enough that I added the extra inspection step when buying anything graded. I guess the vigilance has stuck with me to this day.