Local John Stockton Mask Controversy

Peter_Spaeth · #1 01-24-2022, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayshum

The VAERS system that Stockton refers to is a web site where anyone can report an adverse event following a vaccination. There is no initial verification that what is reported actually happened or that it was caused by a vaccine, but there can be an attempt for further investigation to determine if there is a true cause from a vaccine. From what has been looked into, there is nowhere near 20K deaths caused by the COVID vaccines acknowledged by the CDC, but that seems to be a popular talking point for the anti-vaccine side.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/

From the FAQ page:

Limitations of VAERS:

It is generally not possible to find out from VAERS data if a vaccine caused the adverse event
Reports submitted to VAERS often lack details and sometimes contains errors
Serious adverse events are more likely to be reported than non-serious events
Numbers of reports may increase in response to media attention and increased public awareness
VAERS data cannot be used to determine rates of adverse events

Tell a lie often enough and it becomes true, right?

clydepepper · #2 01-24-2022, 03:45 PM

I'm still in a lot of pain because my hip-replacement surgery was cancelled at the last minute due to the virus.

So, I don't give a DAMN about the rights of those who decide not to get vaccinated!!

.

irv · #3 01-25-2022, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clydepepper

I'm still in a lot of pain because my hip-replacement surgery was cancelled at the last minute due to the virus.

So, I don't give a DAMN about the rights of those who decide not to get vaccinated!!

.

Yeah, those stupid, ignorant anti-vaxxers!!!!
"""1073 cases in the fully vaccinated hospitalized compared to 417 in the unvaccinated""
https://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/149331

https://twitter.com/NickFondacaro/st...72856409354250
https://twitter.com/itsonlychoclat/s...g-icu-bed-data

You've been lied to since the beginning. It's about time you warmed up to that fact.

Carter08 · #4 01-25-2022, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irv

Yeah, those stupid, ignorant anti-vaxxers!!!!
"""1073 cases in the fully vaccinated hospitalized compared to 417 in the unvaccinated""
https://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/149331

https://twitter.com/NickFondacaro/st...72856409354250
https://twitter.com/itsonlychoclat/s...g-icu-bed-data

You've been lied to since the beginning. It's about time you warmed up to that fact.

Twitter is funny.

nolemmings · #5 01-25-2022, 09:50 AM

QUOTE=irv;2189340]Yeah, those stupid, ignorant anti-vaxxers!!!!
"""1073 cases in the fully vaccinated hospitalized compared to 417 in the unvaccinated""
https://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/149331

https://twitter.com/NickFondacaro/st...72856409354250
https://twitter.com/itsonlychoclat/s...g-icu-bed-data

You've been lied to since the beginning. It's about time you warmed up to that fact.[/QUOTE]

I've seen this foolishness from you before, and marvel at your lack of understanding of basic math and probability. More than six times as many people are vaccinated as are not. Yet the difference in hospitalizations, assuming your numbers to be correct, is about two to one. Hmm, wonder why.

Carter08 · #6 01-25-2022, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nolemmings

QUOTE=irv;2189340]Yeah, those stupid, ignorant anti-vaxxers!!!!
"""1073 cases in the fully vaccinated hospitalized compared to 417 in the unvaccinated""
https://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/149331

https://twitter.com/NickFondacaro/st...72856409354250
https://twitter.com/itsonlychoclat/s...g-icu-bed-data

You've been lied to since the beginning. It's about time you warmed up to that fact.

I've seen this foolishness from you before, and marvel at your lack of understanding of basic math and probability. More than six times as many people are vaccinated as are not. Yet the difference in hospitalizations, assuming your numbers to be correct, is about two to one. Hmm, wonder why.[/QUOTE]

I was told there would be no math.

Peter_Spaeth · #7 01-25-2022, 11:24 AM

From 4 days ago, for whatever it's worth.

In one analysis of 259 hospitals and 383 emergency departments from late August through early January, a third dose of either the Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna vaccine was found to reduce the odds of a hospital or emergency room visit by 94 percent during the delta wave, and by 82 percent once omicron started spreading.

Jim65 · #8 01-25-2022, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clydepepper

I'm still in a lot of pain because my hip-replacement surgery was cancelled at the last minute due to the virus.

So, I don't give a DAMN about the rights of those who decide not to get vaccinated!!

.

So, your rights are more important than anyone elses?

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