T213 prices vs rarities?

[tedzan]

Hey guys.....this is one GREAT thread.

I am especially a 1910 COUPON fan. I prefer to refer the "T213-1" cards as this because my research definitely suggests that they are a subset of the T206 set.

Years ago, I started collecting the 1910 COUPON cards by 1st acquiring the Six Super Prints of the T206 set. Believe it or not....for me this Cobb was the easier
card to find of these rare gems.

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And, my 6th 1910 COUPON Super Print, Chance, now belongs to Ryan.

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Hey Rob.....I haven't given up searching for the Bob Rhoades to complete your 1910 COUPON set.



TED Z

T206 Reference
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[asphaltman]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hey guys.....this is one GREAT thread.

I am especially a 1910 COUPON fan. I prefer to refer the "T213-1" cards as this because my research definitely suggests that they are a subset of the T206 set.

Years ago, I started collecting the 1910 COUPON cards by 1st acquiring the Six Super Prints of the T206 set. Believe it or not....for me this Cobb was the easier
card to find of these rare gems.

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And, my 6th 1910 COUPON Super Print, Chance, now belongs to Ryan.

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Hey Rob.....I haven't given up searching for the Bob Rhoades to complete your 1910 COUPON set.



TED Z

T206 Reference
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More amazing cards - thanks for the scans Ted

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by asphaltman

More amazing cards - thanks for the scans Ted

Dave......Thank you for starting this thread.

And, here are some more T213 cards.....





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TED Z

T206 Reference
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[RCMcKenzie]

Thanks Jerry and Ted. Ted, I think my best chance will be someone from New Orleans loading up a card on ebay, like this T213-3 Wheat that I got last year. He told me he bought it at a yard sale in the 80's and was selling to buy modern basketball. Also, I added a Kelley from eBay to take me to 67/70. I looked at 3 Kelley's on there for a long time, and finally made a deal to add one.

[brianp-beme]

Even a destroyed T213-2 Coupon is kinda cool.

Brian

[tedzan]

Continuing on 1910 COUPON......

Initially, the COUPON Cigarettes were packaged in 200-count cartons. The 1910 COUPON cards were placed inside these cartons, or were pasted on these
cartons. The latter case would certainly explain the recurring paper loss found on quite a number of these cards' backs, such as my Cobb and Breitenstein.

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My Mickey Doolan certainly provides evidence of a very slight application of paste.

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TED Z

T206 Reference
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[brianp-beme]

Hey, here are my only T213-1 and T213-3 cards. Thankfully in slightly better shape than the T213-2 I showed previously.

Brian

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by tedzan

Hey guys.....this is one GREAT thread.

I am especially a 1910 COUPON fan. I prefer to refer the "T213-1" cards as this because my research definitely suggests that they are a subset of the T206 set.

Years ago, I started collecting the 1910 COUPON cards by 1st acquiring the Six Super Prints of the T206 set. Believe it or not....for me this Cobb was the easier
card to find of these rare gems.




TED Z

T206 Reference
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It's discussed here all the time if the T213 type 1's should be classified as a T206 subset. Each individual person has their own opinion and so far there is no definitive proof one way or the other.

To me they appear to be a less popular brand that used the T206 images to promote the coupon brand following the success that the T206 brands had.

The T213-1's used the 350 only, super prints and Southern League subjects and when you compare them to the other T206 subsets the only similarity they have is that they used the same images. The Coupon type 2's actually have more similarities than the type 1's and they were printed several years after the T206's.
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[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Pat R

The T213-1's used the 350 only, super prints and Southern League subjects and when you compare them to the other T206 subsets the only similarity they have is that they used the same images. The Coupon type 2's actually have more similarities than the type 1's and they were printed several years after the T206's.

Pat

Your "42" number of 350-only series Major Leaguers in the 1910 COUPON set is absolutely incorrect.
Furthermore, these statements of yours are somewhat confusing....
"The T213-1's used the 350 only, super prints and Southern League subjects and when you compare them to the other T206 subsets the only similarity they have
is that they used the same images. The Coupon type 2's actually have more similarities than the type 1's and they were printed several years after the T206's."


There are 48 - Major League subjects from the T206 350-only series which include the Six Super Prints. American Lithograph first introduced the 6 Super Prints
in their print run of the 350-only series. And, subsequently continued printing the 6 Super Prints in the 350/460 series with a numerous variety of 460 series backs.


Shown here is a 48-card simulation of the 1910 COUPON (T213-1) Major League (48) subjects






Displayed here are the Six Super Prints (for anyone unfamiliar with them) with the 1910 COUPON advertisement.

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TED Z

T206 Reference
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[asphaltman]

The t213-1 should be classified as a t206 way before the Ty Cobb King of the Smoking World back....but just another argument that’ll never change opinions.

[RCMcKenzie]

I collect all vintage cards by the backs, except T215, which I collect my the front caption. For example, I collect AB350NF, and go for 37 to the "set", or sub-set, if you would rather call it that. If I buy a Piedmont 150 Keeler port, I keep it with the other Piedmont 150 cards. For T207 I keep all the ANON3 backs in a different box from the Recruit backs. I'm okay with the Burdick designations, it's incredible that he compiled so many cards and cataloged them.

Here's a list of what I call the "Coupon only 'super-prints'" to borrow Scot's term...These subjects can be found in all 3 Coupon "sets". I believe I have this list correct, if not let me know.
Chance port, Chase port, Chase throw, Cobb red, Donovan, Doolan glove, Dubuc, Dunn, Evers, Huggins port, Huggins hands to face, Marquard port, Mathewson, Mowrey, Meyers field, Paskart, Street port, Thomas

[ValKehl]

I have only one example of each T213 type (and no Type 3 with the overprint).