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[Peter_Spaeth]

Trout and Harper are undoubtedly getting some credit for the projected rest of their careers. But they are the two most talented hitters of this generation and I think this forum for the most part has a huge nostalgia bias in favor of vintage players.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Trout and Harper are undoubtedly getting some credit for the projected rest of their careers. But they are the two most talented hitters of this generation and I think this forum for the most part has a huge nostalgia bias in favor of vintage players.

Pete, can you please post Trout's Playoffs & World Series numbers during his 11 year career?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Pete, can you please post Trout's Playoffs & World Series numbers during his 11 year career?

Sure, when you post Ted Williams' and Ernie Banks'. Oh and Ty Cobb's too please -- .262 was it?

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sure, when you post Ted Williams' and Ernie Banks'. Oh and Ty Cobb's too please -- .262 was it?

1st, Trout won't even sniff many of Williams and Cobbs accomplishments.

Hits - Cobb - 4189 - Trout - 1419

Steals - Cobb - 897 - Trout - 203

Home Runs:
Williams - 521 (and missed 3 prime years at a real WAR) - Trout - 310

Batting Average - Williams .344 - Cobb .366 - Trout .305

2nd, these 2 played in an era where there were no playoffs so asking to show their playoff numbers, really? c'mon you have at least average intelligence I'm gonna to assume. Nowadays what 5 teams from each league make the playoffs every year and there are 3 rounds before you even get to the World Series. And that wuss can't even get his team into the playoffs. Kinda like when Harper left the Nats, then the Nats won the Series. Trout is a cancer, like Harper, pretty boys who will never play in a WS, and never come close to the careers of Williams and Cobb.

3rd, you're just wrong, and I just proved it.

Don't ever mention Mike Trout with Williams and Cobb again. Mention him with Koufax if you like, or other players who had a nice shorter peak.

Now get the f--k off my lawn!

[felada]

They have Pedro as the highest rated pitcher. Does by one really believe he was the best pitcher ever?

[icollectDCsports]

Sometimes I think they plant a few head scratchers on lists like this in order to get people talking about it.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

1st, Trout won't even sniff many of Williams and Cobbs accomplishments.

Hits - Cobb - 4189 - Trout - 1419

Steals - Cobb - 897 - Trout - 203

Home Runs:
Williams - 521 (and missed 3 prime years at a real WAR) - Trout - 310

Batting Average - Williams .344 - Cobb .366 - Trout .305

2nd, these 2 played in an era where there were no playoffs so asking to show their playoff numbers, really? c'mon you have at least average intelligence I'm gonna to assume. Nowadays what 5 teams from each league make the playoffs every year and there are 3 rounds before you even get to the World Series. And that wuss can't even get his team into the playoffs. Kinda like when Harper left the Nats, then the Nats won the Series. Trout is a cancer, like Harper, pretty boys who will never play in a WS, and never come close to the careers of Williams and Cobb.

3rd, you're just wrong, and I just proved it.

Don't ever mention Mike Trout with Williams and Cobb again. Mention him with Koufax if you like, or other players who had a nice shorter peak.

Now get the f--k off my lawn!

Did Trout retire? I missed the memo. He's 30. And missed most of two years. Your comparisons are meaningless. Here's something meaningful.
Offensive WAR
2012 AL 8.7 (1st)
2013 AL 10.1 (1st)
2014 AL 8.8 (1st)
2015 AL 8.8 (1st)
2016 AL 9.9 (1st)
2018 AL 9.2 (1st)
2019 AL 8.1 (1st)

Adjusted OPS+
2012 AL 168 (1st)
2015 AL 176 (1st)
2016 AL 173 (1st)
2017 AL 186 (1st)
2018 AL 198 (1st)
2019 AL 182 (1st)
Active 176 (1st)

Oh, and 3 MVPs and 4 2nds.

But hey, live in the past, it's cool. I probably have some of that nostalgia bias myself.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Did Trout retire? I missed the memo. He's 30. And missed most of two years. Your comparisons are meaningless. Here's something meaningful.
Offensive WAR
2012 AL 8.7 (1st)
2013 AL 10.1 (1st)
2014 AL 8.8 (1st)
2015 AL 8.8 (1st)
2016 AL 9.9 (1st)
2018 AL 9.2 (1st)
2019 AL 8.1 (1st)

Adjusted OPS+
2012 AL 168 (1st)
2015 AL 176 (1st)
2016 AL 173 (1st)
2017 AL 186 (1st)
2018 AL 198 (1st)
2019 AL 182 (1st)
Active 176 (1st)

Oh, and 3 MVPs and 4 2nds.

But hey, live in the past, it's cool. I probably have some of that nostalgia bias myself.

Who's living in the past, I believe that would be you. You seemed to forget 2020 & 2021. Can you post those?

Like I said he had a very nice run, like Koufax did.

I personally would put him in the 40's, but if you want to put him in the 30's I'd reluctantly be ok with that. But Top 20 at this point is a complete joke.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

Who's living in the past, I believe that would be you. You seemed to forget 2020 & 2021. Can you post those?

Like I said he had a very nice run, like Koufax did.

I personally would put him in the 40's, but if you want to put him in the 30's I'd reluctantly be ok with that. But Top 20 at this point is a complete joke.

2020 was a 60 game season and he missed most of last year with an injury, but you knew that. At 30 I would doubt his run is "over." His injury is nothing like Sandy's. Stay tuned!!

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by shoeless moe

1st, trout won't even sniff many of williams and cobbs accomplishments.

Hits - cobb - 4189 - trout - 1419

steals - cobb - 897 - trout - 203

home runs:
Williams - 521 (and missed 3 prime years at a real war) - trout - 310

batting average - williams .344 - cobb .366 - trout .305

2nd, these 2 played in an era where there were no playoffs so asking to show their playoff numbers, really? C'mon you have at least average intelligence i'm gonna to assume. Nowadays what 5 teams from each league make the playoffs every year and there are 3 rounds before you even get to the world series. And that wuss can't even get his team into the playoffs. Kinda like when harper left the nats, then the nats won the series. Trout is a cancer, like harper, pretty boys who will never play in a ws, and never come close to the careers of williams and cobb.

3rd, you're just wrong, and i just proved it.

Don't ever mention mike trout with williams and cobb again. Mention him with koufax if you like, or other players who had a nice shorter peak.

Now get the f--k off my lawn!

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