Forum Member Dilemma

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Yes and no. Most times the "aggrieved" party in a case like this isn't willing to come on and share their side of the story. The fact that he did, and is willing to take some lumps, speaks volumes about him. Life isn't a often doesn't provide perfect information, sometimes you have to make judgements with less than ideal info. Of course those judgements don't have to be irreversible. I would change my vote on this subject.

Hi Scott,

Don't disagree at all, but you can understand how this looks. The fact that so many people were quick to jump to a decision based on only partial information, and then quickly changed their minds when presented with more input, is downright scary. This is exactly how a vast majority of people around the globe seem to operate in today's world with regard to half-truths, fake news, misinformation, and so on. They take what information they are given, and often make hasty, not well-informed decisions based on what partial or little they do know. I intentionally did not vote or offer an answer as I was well aware I possibly did not have all the facts, nor had a chance to have heard both sides of the story, before making a truly informed decision.

As you state, people do this all the time though, and it can very often result in extremely negative results, and even matters of life and death. Look at what is going on in Ukraine, and the supposed misinformation behind at least some of the reasoning for the invasion. Does anyone think the entirety of the Russian population really knows the whole, true story of what is going on? Thank goodness the issue of this thread has no such dire and real world consequences associated with it. But still, it is indicative of human nature and how people can rush to conclusions without taking the time to gather and look at ALL the information first (assuming they'll at some point actually be given all the information), and then actually think about what it all means and the consequences of their decision, before actually making a decision.

Granted, people don't always have the luxury to take their time to make their decisions, but that is certainly not true in this instance. And fortunately, there is no negative, lasting effect or dire consequences that result from people going back and now changing their mind in this particular case. But all too often, such quick and ill-informed decision making, when it isn't necessary, can result in much harm and damage to others, and may not be entirely reversible. I would pray that ALL people could be more cognizant of what they are doing and how they go about making such decisions, without possibly being too quick to decide, and end up making a bad decision as a result.

The saying, "Judge not, lest ye be judged.", would also seem to be very apropos here. Or put another way, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I've often heard Ebay sellers complain when getting negative feedback that they were never contacted by the buyer beforehand, but wished they had been so they could have resolved the issue without it escalating further. I would hope that such thinking should go both ways.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by BobC

Hi Scott,

The fact that so many people were quick to jump to a decision based on only partial information, and then quickly changed their minds when presented with more input, is downright scary. This is exactly how a vast majority of people around the globe seem to operate in today's world with regard to half-truths, fake news, misinformation, and so on.

I disagree with this sentiment vehemently. I see little evidence of anyone, in the context you are speaking of, changing their mind about anything.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I disagree with this sentiment vehemently. I see little evidence of anyone, in the context you are speaking of, changing their mind about anything.

Ummmm, please go back and read posts 43, 48, 50, 61, 67, 72, and 74.

And similar things and instances can be, and are, happening around the world all the time, whether due to involuntary or self-elected reasons. Lots of countries/peoples are denied full and equal access to all knowledge and information due to outright censorship and attempts to control them and their decisions by the powers that be. In other instances, there are people that will only look to certain sources for their information and knowledge and voluntarily decide who and what to listen to, and what to ignore, before making their decisions. Thus in either case, often making their decisions prematurely and often without the benefit of getting ALL the available information AND both sides of a story/argument first, can most definitely lead to erroneous actions being chosen, along with inflicting often needless and senseless harm and damage to others.

Based on what was initially posted, people made premature decisions, and then later changed them. No one did anything inherently wrong or bad, or intentionally tried to force anyone's opinion. But simple human nature comes through once again in this particular case to show one of the downsides of being human where we can, and very often do, jump to what may turn out to be unfounded or undeserved conclusions. And that is what I meant and the context I was referring to when I mentioned how actions and outcomes like this can be scary. Not necessarily in this particular case, but in the infinite number of past, present, and future instances where humans will time and again exhibit similar premature decision making actions without the benefit of having all the pertinent information and facts, whether knowingly or unknowingly. Whenever possible, people should be sure to take their time and consider all relevant information and data, and strive to see that they actually have it all, before using all that acquired knowledge and evidence to then make logical and well informed decisions. To allude to another old, but extremely intelligent saying, "Measure twice, cut once!" If everyone at least tried to embrace and live by this concept, I think it would be a much better world we'd be living in.

And of course, this naturally segues right into another maybe not so desirable human trait, the dislike for many humans to admit they may have been wrong or in error, after the fact. To that end, I actually commend and thank those that openly changed their minds. I also commend and thank everyone involved for as Paul Harvey used to say, getting "the rest of the story" out there for everyone to see and better understand. Sadly, for countless other issues and situations in our world, it more often than not does not positively work out like things look to have done here in this thread, and with no real significant harm or dire consequences befalling anyone in the process.

And if you vehemently disagree with this, so be it.

[atx840]

That brings back some memories Dean.

Bruce Dorskind threatened to sue himself...without knowing it.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...e+bruce&page=3

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by atx840

That brings back some memories Dean.

Bruce Dorskind threatened to sue himself...without knowing it.

https://www.net54baseball.com/showth...e+bruce&page=3

Classic, thanks for some net54 entertainment on a Thursday night Chris.

[JollyElm]

The "Hope this helps" makes it a quote for the ages!!!

[Seven]

I think that if the original buyer compensates for shipping, then he should stay. I'd chalk up the whole tape/crack situation to be a gods honest mistake. Hell half the time I'm searching all over the place for my glasses only to realize they're on the top of my head. I've searched for my phone, with my phone in hand. I'd like to think we're all Human and are prone to making silly mistakes.

The Nun's Wagner, had me rolling the first time I saw it, a few months back. The comments on the roll of paper towel as well. In the original thread, the photoshops were something else.