Ranking of T206 Rarities

[Jobu]

The galleries on the T206 Resource show 46 Wagners and 64 Planks. There are almost certainly more of each out there, but given the status of these cards in the hobby and the amount of time that people have been following them, it seems to me that the ratio between these might at least be close.

I can make an argument for a slightly larger % of unknown Planks than unknown/not in the gallery Wagners. The Resource ratio is 64/46 Plank/Wagner, or 1.39:1. If we bump this up to assume a few more missing Planks than Wagners, say 1.5:1 and go with 60 Wagners, that gets us to 90 Planks.

I think a more interesting question for Plank is how many 150 vs 350 there are given how much nicer and more desirable the 150s are. At the moment, I think we know the backs of 51 Planks:

SC150/25 - 2
SC150/30 - 9
PD150 - 5
SC350/30 - 35

16/51 (31.4%) of these are 150 series. Applying this to the total of 90 above, that means we have 28 of the 150s and 62 of the 350s.

[mrvster]

Great stuff!!!

yes!!! lets keep this going

omg great fun thread Mike

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by Jobu

The galleries on the T206 Resource show 46 Wagners and 64 Planks. There are almost certainly more of each out there, but given the status of these cards in the hobby and the amount of time that people have been following them, it seems to me that the ratio between these might at least be close.

I can make an argument for a slightly larger % of unknown Planks than unknown/not in the gallery Wagners. The Resource ratio is 64/46 Plank/Wagner, or 1.39:1. If we bump this up to assume a few more missing Planks than Wagners, say 1.5:1 and go with 60 Wagners, that gets us to 90 Planks.

I think a more interesting question for Plank is how many 150 vs 350 there are given how much nicer and more desirable the 150s are. At the moment, I think we know the backs of 51 Planks:

SC150/25 - 2
SC150/30 - 9
PD150 - 5
SC350/30 - 35

16/51 (31.4%) of these are 150 series. Applying this to the total of 90 above, that means we have 28 of the 150s and 62 of the 350s.

This is the Wagner backs that I know of

SC150/25 - 16
SC150/30 - 4
PD150 - 3

The long time Hobby claim is that one of the Piedmont 150 Plank's was on the same sheet as the PSA 8 Wagner. I'm not so sure that's true and the back disparity certainly shows they weren't on the same sheet for long if they were.

[brass_rat]

Hey Bryan,

Great numbers. I do, however, hesitate to think that there are many more than 50 Wagners. Within the T206 Resource 46, there are raw cards that haven't seen the light of day for 30-40 years. People have tracked and publicized finds since what, the 1940s or even earlier?

Wagners (and Planks) that do come up have largely found homes through dealers and auctions for a long time, decreasing the likelihood that there are another 14 Wagners resting in collections unknown to the hobby.

I like your 3:2 Plank:Wagner ratio and would suggest 75:50.
Also, this implies the Plank 150 and Plank 350 counts to be 24 and 51, respectively.

Cheers,
Steve

[Rhotchkiss]

I agree with you Steve. I doubt there are more than 50 Wagners and there are likely 75-80 Planks

9 Doyles
20+/- Brown Old Mills
25+/- Cobb backs
30+/- Brown Lenox
50 Wagners

Then I generally like the rest of Johnny’s list, my opinion without investigation, in order of rarity, without opining as to count

BL 460
Proof
Blank
Plank
Drum
Uzit
Magie error
T213
T215-1
Red Hindu
Carolina Brights
BL 350
Hindu

Definitely not t206, but certainly noteworthy bc the have same fronts are
T215 pirate (wicked stupid rare - like Doyle rare, except for one complete set (missing one) that will never be broken up
T214 victory - approximate rare as BL 460??
T215-2