Gun ownership poll

jbhofmann · #1 06-09-2022, 08:37 AM

As a nearly 20 yr teacher I�ll chime in on just the educational front.

1. A school I taught at for 8 years was compromised by an ex student who shot out a side door. Luckily the school and law enforcement received information that this was about to happen from his mother. Police were on the scene immediately and entered behind him.

2. The school had locked internal doors that the shooter tried but couldn�t enter classrooms. The camera system allowed the principal to keep LEO updated in real time where the shooter was.

3. His gun choice imo was a huge factor in only him dying. A bolt action rifle. The idea that high capacity magazines aren�t a problem in these events seems to ignore school massacre evidence. Each time this happens law enforcement talks about how they were out armed. This particular time they weren�t and the shooter took his life knowing he was cornered in a stairwell.

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clydepepper · #2 06-09-2022, 10:37 AM

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bnorth · #3 06-09-2022, 11:05 AM

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That side by side pic of Ortiz is awesome.

irv · #4 06-09-2022, 12:04 PM

How old are you?

Just because you don't find this topic, in the off topic section, important, interesting nor wish to engage in conversation about it doesn't mean that others don't.

Would you like it if someone did the same to one of your threads or posted random, off topic pics in one of your BST posts for example?

Leon · #5 06-09-2022, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by irv

How old are you?

Just because you don't find this topic, in the off topic section, important, interesting nor wish to engage in conversation about it doesn't mean that others don't.

Would you like it if someone did the same to one of your threads or posted random, off topic pics in one of your BST posts for example?

+1...and it's against the rules that few have read. They have been posted since day 1....

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bnorth · #6 06-09-2022, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by irv

How old are you?

Just because you don't find this topic, in the off topic section, important, interesting nor wish to engage in conversation about it doesn't mean that others don't.

Would you like it if someone did the same to one of your threads or posted random, off topic pics in one of your BST posts for example?

Just my opinion but subjects like this have no real conversations going on. You have people posting their very biased opinions. No one is going to change that opinion so threads like this turn into name calling because we all believe we are correct and others are idiots on the subject.

Personally I enjoy reading them as humor and the silly/funny pictures add to that enjoyment. I am 53 if that matters.

SAllen2556 · #7 06-09-2022, 01:34 PM

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Just my opinion but subjects like this have no real conversations going on. You have people posting their very biased opinions. No one is going to change that opinion so threads like this turn into name calling because we all believe we are correct and others are idiots on the subject.

Personally I enjoy reading them as humor and the silly/funny pictures add to that enjoyment. I am 53 if that matters.

I don't know about this. I'm a gun owner and I'm actually starting to change my mind on parts of the debate. For example, would it be terrible to have to be 21 to buy a gun?

I think that when you have to write your opinion, as opposed to shouting it on tv, it's more likely to influence others' opinions - at least those who know how to read and are willing to read opposing views. I actually enjoy these threads once in a while.

Mark17 · #8 06-09-2022, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SAllen2556

I don't know about this. I'm a gun owner and I'm actually starting to change my mind on parts of the debate. For example, would it be terrible to have to be 21 to buy a gun?

I think that when you have to write your opinion, as opposed to shouting it on tv, it's more likely to influence others' opinions - at least those who know how to read and are willing to read opposing views. I actually enjoy these threads once in a while.

+1. A thoughtful, reasoned opinion can often sway me.

I'm an NRA member but think 21 sounds reasonable too. I also think it wouldn't keep guns out of the hands of teenagers. Cocaine is illegal everywhere and has been for decades. Yet it's quite readily available nationwide (so I hear.) Passing more laws does not mean the bad guys will obey them. Still, we need reasonable laws.

bnorth · #9 06-09-2022, 07:24 PM

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+1. A thoughtful, reasoned opinion can often sway me.

I'm an NRA member but think 21 sounds reasonable too. I also think it wouldn't keep guns out of the hands of teenagers. Cocaine is illegal everywhere and has been for decades. Yet it's quite readily available nationwide (so I hear.) Passing more laws does not mean the bad guys will obey them. Still, we need reasonable laws.

For me the bold part is the big thing most that want more gun laws just don't understand. Bad people do not obey laws and they are the problem.

About the only new law I would be for is making everyone take gun safety courses to be a gun owner. That is just to help keep the honest people from accidently shooting each other.

G1911 · #10 06-09-2022, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SAllen2556

I think that when you have to write your opinion, as opposed to shouting it on tv, it's more likely to influence others' opinions - at least those who know how to read and are willing to read opposing views. I actually enjoy these threads once in a while.

+2. I have shifted my opinion on many subjects because I found a better, more logical argument than I had crafted myself.

BobbyStrawberry · #11 06-09-2022, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SAllen2556

I don't know about this. I'm a gun owner and I'm actually starting to change my mind on parts of the debate. For example, would it be terrible to have to be 21 to buy a gun?

I think that when you have to write your opinion, as opposed to shouting it on tv, it's more likely to influence others' opinions - at least those who know how to read and are willing to read opposing views. I actually enjoy these threads once in a while.

+3! I've found this thread mostly respectful and have learned a few things.

Carter08 · #12 06-09-2022, 04:41 PM

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+3! I've found this thread mostly respectful and have learned a few things.

I understand where the poster was coming from that big issue discussions don�t typically change minds but guns might be different. Abortion, death penalty, those probably don�t go anywhere. With guns, there might be a chance of reaching a better position than the one we�re in. I think the basic starting point is the right needs to understand the left doesn�t want to take away all of their guns. The left needs to understand the right isn�t in favor of mass shootings or even singular, unjustified shootings. We have a long history of gun ownership and there are an abundance of guns in this country. So both sides need to see if there are changes that can be made that result in a net benefit without all of the demonizing of the other side.

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