SGC grading is super fast.

[55koufax]

I get it Bob, thanks....

I am just trying to understand (from some of the veteran, quality collector's) if I can get my own mind to believe that SGC is worth the time and trouble to submit at $23 per..

Been thinking for about one year of trying them on a 100 card sub to hit $23 level. That said, of course I am concerned about what their graded value may be if I were to want to flip and sell most of them. We ALL know and agree their sales cannot match other TPGs, and if indeed values in general are dropping, likely not a great time for me to test the SGC waters.

[Republicaninmass]

I chose 1952 topps "gray backs" on their drop down.


They were not labeled as such.


The intern I emailed said they only label red and blacks, not gray backs.

I explained their is a choice in the dropdown menu for this specific variation.


Intern responded it must be a glitch they need to fix.


More than enough for me to never send them another card period.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

I chose 1952 topps "gray backs" on their drop down.


They were not labeled as such.


The intern I emailed said they only label red and blacks, not gray backs.

I explained their is a choice in the dropdown menu for this specific variation.


Intern responded it must be a glitch they need to fix.


More than enough for me to never send them another card period.

Huge misstep by SGC. Something more fitting for PSA to do but I know that is not the case.

I like the look of their holder...they used to grade very accurately and fairly but not so much recently from what I have seen. I simply cannot support them because at some point the cards I grade will be sold and while nobody can predict the future, PSA is more of a sure bet for maximizing one's return.

[Zact]

Not wishing to get into a debate, but I do have some anecdotal data to share on this topic. I am predominantly a psa registry set collector with post war master sets for Clemente and Aaron as a focus and other hof sets. I have been submitting vintage cards to sgc for the past 6 months through boca card submissions. They offer a discount of $24 per card group submissions vs $30 per direct per card . The Facebook group shows the specific submitters and numbers etc. SGc has increased their capacity to about 4K cards per day through expansion of physical space and staff over the past year or so. They were consistently running 2-3 week turnaround times for several months for the past 6 months. They are now turning around in a handful of business days. I can see through their page that the volume of group submissions had definitely decreased from 5-600 per day to 2-300 per day. Multiple factors involved here. I think the throughput was increased to 4 k per day for several months and now submission volume is decreasing in 6/2022. Predictioning that they will decrease pricing soon to keep volume at a steady state or decrease overhead

[BobC]

Originally Posted by 55koufax

I get it Bob, thanks....

I am just trying to understand (from some of the veteran, quality collector's) if I can get my own mind to believe that SGC is worth the time and trouble to submit at $23 per..

Been thinking for about one year of trying them on a 100 card sub to hit $23 level. That said, of course I am concerned about what their graded value may be if I were to want to flip and sell most of them. We ALL know and agree their sales cannot match other TPGs, and if indeed values in general are dropping, likely not a great time for me to test the SGC waters.

Hey James,

No sweat just trying to explain where I'm coming from on this topic.

In your situation, I'd have the exact same concern about which TPG to use, if any at all. I think you have to ask yourself if you're really planning to sell, and if so, how soon. As others have mentioned in this thread, TPG turnaround times are dropping, and it is most likely due to decreasing submissions, which as others have also said will probably lead to more lowering of grading prices as competition heats up among TPGs. I don't know the makeup of your collection, or the quality of the cards you're looking to submit, but as you and others have said, you'll most likely get the best prices for your cards when selling from using PSA to grade them.

That said, if there is no dire reason to sell right now, maybe hold off a bit and see if the grading market doesn't continue to promote further competition among the TPGs, and as a result, even lower grading prices going forward. It is possible that by this time next year you may be able to get PSA to grade those cards for you at a much more reasonable cost than now, and closer to what SGC would charge. Obviously can't predict with 100% accuracy, but it would seem that TPG grading prices are way more likely to be going down than up in the foreseeable future.

Also, depending on the quality and desirability of what cards you are looking to sell, you could check with different auction houses that may have an interest in them. They may have a connection with different TPGs and can possibly get you a better/faster grading deal and/or cost if you agree to consign and sell some of your cards through them. Big maybe, but doesn't hurt to ask. Good luck!

[ClementeFanOh]

BobC- you are a complete idiot. The phrase "very dangerous" in my original
post was CLEARLY a reference to a comment that is logically "dangerous",
meaning "erroneous". You are merely making a pathetic attempt to drum up
support for your insane ramblings and it's not going to work. I didn't make a
direct threat, or an implied threat, of physical danger of ANY kind- and would
not do so.

Go away.

Trent King