Heritage Rosen Mantle - Greatest Card Ever Auctioned?

[chriskim]

Let's watch... I think this Mantle got onto a flipper's hand. It will change hand within 3 yrs.

[Johnny630]

This went for a Bargain imo. 10 years down the road this will be a $30 million card. I think this card would’ve sold for more in REA.

[chriskim]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

This went for a Bargain imo. 10 years down the road this will be a $30 million card. I think this card would’ve sold for more in REA.

I don't think it would make a diff if it was offered by REA, this Mantle has gotten enough publicity. The next transaction of this card would be as a private deal for sure.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by chriskim

I don't think it would make a diff if it was offered by REA, this Mantle has gotten enough publicity. The next transaction of this card would be as a private deal for sure.

Agree with your second point. I’m still sticking with my guns on I believe this card would’ve did better IMO in REA auctions.

He could probably sell this privately right now to the right man or woman for 15 to 17,000,000. Instantly.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Agree with your second point. I’m still sticking with my guns on I believe this card would’ve did better IMO in REA auctions.

He could probably sell this privately right now to the right man or woman for 15 to 17,000,000. Instantly.

I'm curious why you think having this card with REA would have resulted in a higher price. There was enough publicity about it that you would think anyone interested (and financially capable) of bidding on it would have been bidding on it no matter where it was listed. Also, Heritage is a much larger auction house than REA and they also have auctions of high priced items of many different types. I would think they would have more people registered to bid other than just card collectors that might decide they were going to bid on this Mantle for the prestige of owning it like they would a Monet or a Picasso.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by jayshum

I'm curious why you think having this card with REA would have resulted in a higher price. There was enough publicity about it that you would think anyone interested (and financially capable) of bidding on it would have been bidding on it no matter where it was listed. Also, Heritage is a much larger auction house than REA and they also have auctions of high priced items of many different types. I would think they would have more people registered to bid other than just card collectors that might decide they were going to bid on this Mantle for the prestige of owning it like they would a Monet or a Picasso.

Last Years Highest Sale Ever$ 6,606,000 SGC 3 Wagner along with a Recent Record Sale of an SGC 5 Mantle for $306,000 thousand last month. Heritage is great for memorabilia, art, coins, etc...it’s just my opinion REA is the hands-down showcase auction for big-ticket high profile vintage cards, especially of this prestige with said letter...Idk just my opinion, REA to me would have been the place for this card.

[chriskim]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Agree with your second point. I’m still sticking with my guns on I believe this card would’ve did better IMO in REA auctions.

He could probably sell this privately right now to the right man or woman for 15 to 17,000,000. Instantly.

Rich people get richer. Pretty sure the 2nd highest bidder has the "missing out" feeling and willing to offer more money after sometimes....

(I still think if the stock market was green on Friday, the card would sell for more. )

[Republicaninmass]

Please add the date of your last optometrist visit in your signline if commenting about how good a card looks in person.


That is all

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by chriskim

Let's watch... I think this Mantle got onto a flipper's hand. It will change hand within 3 yrs.

I'm guessing 1 year or less

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

I'm guessing 1 year or less

+1. This just smells to me like someone (or ones) putting a lot of money in play to make a lot of quick money.

[Hankphenom]

1) Is this the Alex Chilton of Boxtops fame card?
2) How did this card achieve such iconic status over so many other great cards in the hobby? This seemed to happen very quickly, was this a recent development and perhaps the result of a PR campaign? It certainly can't have the rarity of many other iconic cards, and Mantle, great as he was, is not on the level of many other all-time greats, so what made this a 10M card?
3) If this is truly a 10M card as decreed by the market, what other cards are poised to enter that rarefied realm that not even a Wagner has achieved yet. Baltimore Ruth? Goudey Lajoie? What else?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

1) Is this the Alex Chilton of Boxtops fame card?
2) How did this card achieve such iconic status over so many other great cards in the hobby? This seemed to happen very quickly, was this a recent development and perhaps the result of a PR campaign? It certainly can't have the rarity of many other iconic cards, and Mantle, great as he was, is not on the level of many other all-time greats, so what made this a 10M card?
3) If this is truly a 10M card as decreed by the market, what other cards are poised to enter that rarefied realm that not even a Wagner has achieved yet. Baltimore Ruth? Goudey Lajoie? What else?

Balt ruth…t206 Wagner…thats it!

[MattyC]

Gotta love all the classic online bile. Bile against Mantle. Bile against the 52T Mantle. Bile against the assumed buyer. The card was gorgeous and someone with the bank bought it for a bundle. While some marinate in their toxic bile I'm gonna enjoy a beautiful Sunday, maybe enjoy some cards later.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Gotta love all the classic online bile. Bile against Mantle. Bile against the 52T Mantle. Bile against the assumed buyer. The card was gorgeous and someone with the bank bought it for a bundle. While some marinate in their toxic bile I'm gonna enjoy a beautiful Sunday, maybe enjoy some cards later.

Who has criticized Mickey Mantle? Do you not know the card is not a rookie? Did you not know it was a DP? Do you not understand it does not meet SGC’s published criteria of a 9.5? What statement is “bile”?

Got to love the pumpers.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Balt ruth…t206 Wagner…thats it!

Thanks. Not being a card guy, it just took me by surprise when this card seemingly all of a sudden became the first to hit this stratospheric level. But with so many experts here not surprised at all, I guess it must have been more or less predictable. Great card, great grade, great iconic player, great hobby history and backstory, great time for the market, and there you have it. Didn't I read there are several 10s out there, what happens when the first one of those pops up in an auction?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Thanks. Not being a card guy, it just took me by surprise when this card seemingly all of a sudden became the first to hit this stratospheric level. But with so many experts here not surprised at all, I guess it must have been more or less predictable. Great card, great grade, great iconic player, great hobby history and backstory, great time for the market, and there you have it. Didn't I read there are several 10s out there, what happens when the first one of those pops up in an auction?

It would not surprise me if egos played a role in it going this high. For guys who can easily afford this even at that stratospheric level, it may have been worth the money just to win.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Do we know yet who bought it? With cards like this the winner is usually out there talking about it, no? Or is that only modern basketball and Pokémon?