Goldschmidt -- HOF chances?

ronniehatesjazz · #1 08-31-2022, 09:54 AM

I think he�s in without having 3-4 more years like this. He will have 4 top MVPs. 7x AS, likely an MVP, and probably cross 2,000 hits if he just hobbles around for 3 more mediocre seasons. Also, was one of the dominant power hitters of his era, and actually stole some bases as well. The only way he doesn�t get in is if something tragic happens and he�s out of the league in a year or two or something else off the wall (e.g. PED use). I�d also say if he gets the triple crown this year he could retire immediately after and still get in.

packs · #2 08-31-2022, 11:05 AM

I'm wondering why you think that though. I don't feel like Goldschmidt has accomplished all that much in his career other than being an above average player.

I do agree that if he manages to win the Triple Crown this season, that makes him an automatic HOFer just by virtue of the accomplishment. I don't see how you keep a borderline guy out after he wins a Triple Crown.

But without the Triple Crown, the MVP award still makes him look an awful lot like Joey Votto to me, and I don't believe Joey Votto is a HOF player. I don't think he was as good as Todd Helton either and I also don't really see a HOFer in Helton.

RayBShotz · #3 08-31-2022, 02:32 PM

I believe he's in.
When the era 2010s and 2020s is looked at retrospectively Goldschmidt will stand out.
RayB

Elberson · #4 08-31-2022, 02:37 PM

Goldy is no Harold baines but with 3 to 5 more years, I think he’ll make it

Peter_Spaeth · #5 08-31-2022, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayBShotz

I believe he's in.
When the era 2010s and 2020s is looked at retrospectively Goldschmidt will stand out.
RayB

I'm not convinced of this. Trout, Betts, Harper and Altuve come instantly to mind as players who started the same time or slightly later who are better. I think Arenado is probably better. Machado. I would guess two or more of Soto, Acuna, Tatis, Vlad Jr. and Devers will surpass him. Etc.

packs · #6 08-31-2022, 02:45 PM

even at his position I still think Joey Votto and Todd Helton were superior players but I also don't think they're HOFers either.

Peter_Spaeth · #7 08-31-2022, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by packs

even at his position I still think Joey Votto and Todd Helton were superior players but I also don't think they're HOFers either.

I don't disagree on the merits but I think Votto will make it because of the whole career with one team thing. And his numbers are pretty good, it wouldn't be a Baines situation.

packs · #8 08-31-2022, 02:59 PM

I think Votto has the best chance of all three (unless Goldschmidt grinds out a triple crown). But I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up in Keith Hernandez-like purgatory.

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