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Old 09-04-2022, 04:55 PM
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Certainly sellers love to highlight that their card is in a new holder, and therefore you should be willing to pay more for it. They also love to argue that the card is undergraded and therefore it’s worth a lot more.

And sometimes they are probably right, although I’ve never seen anyone ask less and highlight that their card is overgraded…
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Old 09-04-2022, 05:07 PM
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I think psa and sgc have gotten tougher on grading recently so a new cert number means that it passed an arguably tougher standard. That said, there are still plenty of old cert numbers that look like undergrades and new cert numbers that look like overgrades.
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Old 09-04-2022, 05:57 PM
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To me a PSA Slab Makes Zero Difference how old or how new it is. It’s about the card itself, each card is different regardless of the age of the holder.
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Old 09-04-2022, 06:33 PM
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I agree with all of the above statements 110% however eBay completed sales would disagree with us as buyers nowadays seem to want the newer slabs!
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To me a PSA Slab Makes Zero Difference how old or how new it is. It’s about the card itself, each card is different regardless of the age of the holder.
Maybe so but for me, the old slabs before the plastic redesign (maybe 2013/14) are oh so easy to open. Very very easy. Just a good fingernail will do it. Not saying the current slabs are foil proof but at least you need more then a good nail or dull butter knife.
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Old 09-04-2022, 10:05 PM
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Maybe so but for me, the old slabs before the plastic redesign (maybe 2013/14) are oh so easy to open. Very very easy. Just a good fingernail will do it. Not saying the current slabs are foil proof but at least you need more then a good nail or dull butter knife.
I agree. At least with the new slab you don't have to worry as much about a card being switched in the holder.
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Certainly sellers love to highlight that their card is in a new holder, and therefore you should be willing to pay more for it. They also love to argue that the card is undergraded and therefore it’s worth a lot more.

And sometimes they are probably right, although I’ve never seen anyone ask less and highlight that their card is overgraded…
Well it's an auction company so we're not "asking" any set amount, but we call out over-graded cards fairly regularly.
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Old 09-04-2022, 09:28 PM
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Well it's an auction company so we're not "asking" any set amount, but we call out over-graded cards fairly regularly.
Good on you, mate!
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Good on you, mate!
“Generous” is the polite way to say it and I bought a card from Collector Connection that was refreshingly and accurately described as generously graded.
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Old 09-04-2022, 10:13 PM
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“Generous” is the polite way to say it and I bought a card from Collector Connection that was refreshingly and accurately described as generously graded.
HA. I guess now I know what to look for. The terminology is a bit hilarious to me, but maybe I’m just easily amused.
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“Generous” is the polite way to say it and I bought a card from Collector Connection that was refreshingly and accurately described as generously graded.
IT's always nice to see a company describe a card correctly.

As to the OPs question, there used to be more lenient grading but I think you still have to take each card on its own...
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Somewhere in the thread there was a comment that it would be rare for PSA to downgrade a card when it is sent in to be placed in a "modern/new" slab. If that's the case, then why would anybody give a crap about the age of the slab? The new buyer could submit it and pay the fees if a new slab means so much to them.

All these grading companies have to do is hire some smart hobby analyst (SHYT) that determines the new breed of hobbyist is an investor and then determine how to manipulate that idiot. The SHYT then hires a few E-trolls to post blogs and information about "new slabs" and how they're worth more than old slabs and voila - grading companies have a new revenue stream for re-submissions. The SHYT gets a cut and starts thinking about the next way to have these hobbyist put out more money to the TPGs.

Someone should start a thread about when they think this whole thing comes tumbling down. Probably never because the world is full of knuckleheads that will roll over for the next ploy. Is this really a hobby anymore? My hobby is reading these threads that say this is a hobby and wondering what flavor Kool-aid is being distributed these days.
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Somewhere in the thread there was a comment that it would be rare for PSA to downgrade a card when it is sent in to be placed in a "modern/new" slab. If that's the case, then why would anybody give a crap about the age of the slab? The new buyer could submit it and pay the fees if a new slab means so much to them.

All these grading companies have to do is hire some smart hobby analyst (SHYT) that determines the new breed of hobbyist is an investor and then determine how to manipulate that idiot. The SHYT then hires a few E-trolls to post blogs and information about "new slabs" and how they're worth more than old slabs and voila - grading companies have a new revenue stream for re-submissions. The SHYT gets a cut and starts thinking about the next way to have these hobbyist put out more money to the TPGs.

Someone should start a thread about when they think this whole thing comes tumbling down. Probably never because the world is full of knuckleheads that will roll over for the next ploy. Is this really a hobby anymore? My hobby is reading these threads that say this is a hobby and wondering what flavor Kool-aid is being distributed these days.
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Old 09-05-2022, 11:44 AM
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To answer your question, sellers should give a crap about new vs old slabs because it makes a huge difference in final sale price. Bottom line is buyers want the new slab!

In regards to your question when will this be over? If the big card shows are any indication of the current state of the hobby then the answer is never! I say that because if you look at the bigger card shows, (at least the ones I’ve been too) graded cards are king. Graded cards filled every dealer showcase, every other person was carrying a pelican case full of graded cards, graded cards were being bought, sold and traded all over the place! There was no doubt to anyone in attendance that graded cards are here to stay! (And growing in popularity DAILY) I would say about 95% of the shows I attended were graded cards only!
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