Top 25 Worst MLB HOFER’S

[ClementeFanOh]

Tabe- with regard to G1911 (and your stating you didn't mean to put words
in his mouth), I must refer you to G1911s "rules for comment"

1) G1911 is ALWAYS right- always.

2) G1911 has decreed that any dissenting opinion is inherently wrong

3) See rule 1 for any questions.

I'm sure he's a real hit at parties... don't worry about his feelings too much.

Trent King

[mr2686]

I love the one of the articles knock on Catfish Hunter: "He also was fortunate to play with two loaded teams in a pitchers-friendly decade at the time'"
I've never considered the A's and the Yankees from those WS teams "loaded". The A's had Catfish, Fingers and Jackson as future hall of famers, and a team of guys that knew how to play their positions and could come up with some key hits. The Yankees had Catfish and Jackson (for Cat's last 3 years) as future hof'ers but also had a couple that should be in (YMMV) in Munson and Guidry. They may have had a high payroll, but Steinbrenner over spent on some average players.
Sorry, you can run all the new metrics and create all kinds of fancy numbers, but if you never saw The Cat pitch, you missed out on a true hall of famer.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

Tabe- with regard to G1911 (and your stating you didn't mean to put words
in his mouth), I must refer you to G1911s "rules for comment"

1) G1911 is ALWAYS right- always.

2) G1911 has decreed that any dissenting opinion is inherently wrong

3) See rule 1 for any questions.

I'm sure he's a real hit at parties... don't worry about his feelings too much.

Trent King

The thesis is that Tabe and I seem to actually agree in an arbitrary opinion, not that anyone is factually right or wrong in their opinion…

I do not understand why I live rent free in your head and blood pressure and you do this almost every week after I said I think Kaline slightly squeaks Clemente in career value in a thread specifically about that, but you might want to find a healthier obsession. Can’t you just PM me or email me your hate mail instead of spamming the board unprovoked again and again? Or make a Watercooler thread “G1911 sucks”? Hijacking for a vendetta is rude to third parties and a little weird.

[spartygw]

Rabbit Maranville and Catfish Hunter should be in the hall of cool nicknames but not the HOF.

I disagree with the idea that Morris doesn't belong. I understand advanced statistics and use of WAR but you can't measure how guys perform under extreme pressure (as far as I know there's no stat).

Morris was undoubtedly a jerk, but with everything on the line he was nails.

[ClementeFanOh]

G1911- You have exceeded even your worst logic, congrats! "Hijacking...
is rude and a little weird"? BINGO...

Speaking of being inside heads, looks like I'm your Huckleberry

Trent King

[G1911]

Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh

G1911- You have exceeded even your worst logic, congrats! "Hijacking...
is rude and a little weird"? BINGO...

Speaking of being inside heads, looks like I'm your Huckleberry

Trent King

Bingo. So you agree it’s really weird. I have never once started it with you. Grow up and find a new hobby. I’m sure you’ll be happier.

[FrankWakefield]

Kirby Puckett
Harold Baines

They shouldn't have gone in.

George Kelley should be in. Maranville, Kell, Brock, Rizzuto, Sutter, Pennock, Gomez... they should be in.


We're a bunch of haters.

[G1911]

I'd probably rather have Baines than George Kelly in my lineup.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by spartygw

Rabbit Maranville and Catfish Hunter should be in the hall of cool nicknames but not the HOF.

I disagree with the idea that Morris doesn't belong. I understand advanced statistics and use of WAR but you can't measure how guys perform under extreme pressure (as far as I know there's no stat).

Morris was undoubtedly a jerk, but with everything on the line he was nails.

his career post season numbers are just as mediocre as his regular season numbers. Selective memory, we only remember the really awesome successes.

[cammb]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

his career post season numbers are just as mediocre as his regular season numbers. Selective memory, we only remember the really awesome successes.

And it is the awesome successes that should play a part in the selection. Why do you think they have a committee that votes after the initial selections. Morris belongs there more than any compiler.(Sutton)

[lampertb]

Originally Posted by cammb

And it is the awesome successes that should play a part in the selection. Why do you think they have a committee that votes after the initial selections. Morris belongs there more than any compiler.(Sutton)

I was 15, about to turn 16, living in St. Paul in October '91. I therefore completely agree with this statement. That entire Series was incredible, but games 6 and 7 I shall never forget.

As for my 2 cents on who does NOT belong in the Hall, but is... Baines and Raines, period. Maybe Mazeroski too.

If Baines is in, then Hrbek should be! (half-joking...)

[Mike D.]

Originally Posted by lampertb

for my 2 cents on who does NOT belong in the Hall, but is... Baines and Raines, period.

Other than the fact that it rhymes with Baines, what's your thinking on Raines?