1902 Philadelphia Athletics Champions Baseball Team Photo/Composite w Plank Mack Wadd

[sb1]

Several of the A's W600's cabinet use the images from this composite, all placed within an oval as the Plank.

[BobC]

i don't know. In looking at the two Plank images side by side there appear, to my eyes at least, to be some very subtle differences between the two photos. Is it not possible these images are from two different photos, just taken at the same photo sitting/session?

[Hankphenom]

Look the same to me.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Look the same to me.

For example, look at the dip, curl, or whatever you want to call it, just to the right of the part in his hair as you are looking at the photos. Those are clearly not exactly the same. If you look at other aspects of the two photos, for instance the contour/outline of Plank's left cheek, they are again clearly not exactly the same either. Or look at the angles or curves of Plank's shoulders in both photos, again they are not the same. Or look at the eyebrow/shadow over Plank's right eye, the image in one is more rounded, but flatter in the other. And so on.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by BobC

For example, look at the dip, curl, or whatever you want to call it, just to the right of the part in his hair as you are looking at the photos. Those are clearly not exactly the same. If you look at other aspects of the two photos, for instance the contour/outline of Plank's left cheek, they are again clearly not exactly the same either. Or look at the angles or curves of Plank's shoulders in both photos, again they are not the same. Or look at the eyebrow/shadow over Plank's right eye, the image in one is more rounded, but flatter in the other. And so on.

Maybe, but I still think the greater chance is that they are the same, and the perceived differences are a matter of quality of resolution and also of process. For example, if you look at the right shoulder of the photo on the right carefully, you will see that a marker of some kind was used to augment it. I don't know why they would do that, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were other examples, perhaps less obvious examples, of where that photo was touched up, and perhaps the photo on the left also.

[Bicem]

They are the same. Keep in mind one is an actual photo and one is a litho rendering of that photo that can contain changes or enhancements.

[Bicem]

These images were also used for the 1906 Lincoln Publishing postcards.

[perezfan]

Agree with Hank and Jeff. Same image, but higher resolution of the photo brings out details not readily visible in the litho.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by Bicem

They are the same. Keep in mind one is an actual photo and one is a litho rendering of that photo that can contain changes or enhancements.

Then they actually aren't the same photo, just a photo and a litho based off a photo. That makes more sense.

I fully understand touching up and resolution in creating a litho can cause some differences, but as much as there are between those two side by side images? Why for example would they have made some of the changes to the shape of his hair in some places? The photo on the left has more highlights and details, but why would they then in the photo on the right remove some of the curves/curls in the shape of his hair? Look at the hair in what would be the far upper left-hand side of Plank's head. The photo on the left shows two indentations, bumps, curls, whatever you want to call them, on the outside edge of his hair on the left-hand side of his face/head, while the litho image on the right only shows one. Is that a normal type of difference occurring when a litho is being made from a photo, to show some bumps/curls, but then remove or straighten out others?

[mrreality68]

Very cool piece of history and amazingly in great shape for its age

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by BobC

Then they actually aren't the same photo, just a photo and a litho based off a photo. That makes more sense.

I fully understand touching up and resolution in creating a litho can cause some differences, but as much as there are between those two side by side images? Why for example would they have made some of the changes to the shape of his hair in some places? The photo on the left has more highlights and details, but why would they then in the photo on the right remove some of the curves/curls in the shape of his hair? Look at the hair in what would be the far upper left-hand side of Plank's head. The photo on the left shows two indentations, bumps, curls, whatever you want to call them, on the outside edge of his hair on the left-hand side of his face/head, while the litho image on the right only shows one. Is that a normal type of difference occurring when a litho is being made from a photo, to show some bumps/curls, but then remove or straighten out others?

Probably because in the original photo, on the left here, his hair is mussed up noticeably on the left side and whoever was wielding the marker decided to take out the muss.