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Old 12-02-2022, 10:55 AM
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Were you in Chicago? If Jordan was such a tsunami in the card world, why did Fleer's basketball offerings basically flop? The Griffey was everywhere - that's why UD printed more of it.
Jordan was a tsunami in 1988-1989. Fleer's basketball offerings didn't flop. They were a good seller, similar to Topps Football and Hockey products of the time and Fleer kept making them.

Upper Deck Griffeys were everywhere in 1989 because that is all that Upper Deck had and as it was a brand new company, they were going to milk it. The 1989 Griffey was just that year's popular rookie and it was only popular until Upper Deck made their high series. Then everyone wanted Jerome Walton. The card everyone really wanted was the 1986 Donruss Jose Canseco. 1988 MVP, 1st 40/40 player, 3x AL Champion 1988-1990, 1989 World Series Champion.
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T206 Wagner
1952 Topps Mantle
1986 F Jordan
1980-81 Magic-Bird
1979-80 Gretzky
1989 UD Griffey
1957 T Russell
1965 T Namath
1966 T Orr
1993 UD Jeter

FWIW, I think Brady and LeBron and Trout are hurt by the sheer variety of RCs they have.
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T206 Wagner
1952 Topps Mantle
1986 F Jordan
1980-81 Magic-Bird
1979-80 Gretzky
1989 UD Griffey
1957 T Russell
1965 T Namath
1966 T Orr
1993 UD Jeter

FWIW, I think Brady and LeBron and Trout are hurt by the sheer variety of RCs they have.
I like this list a lot, but two hockey cards in the top 10? Dunno ahoout that. I'd also bet Alcindor is more widely collected and known than Russ.
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I like this list a lot, but two hockey cards in the top 10? Dunno ahoout that. I'd also bet Alcindor is more widely collected and known than Russ.
Prices do not bear that out. Russell is far more costly grade for grade. I got a fair Russell for $700 and was thrilled.

On hockey, Gretzky is the card to get. For a 1980 card, even a low grade one goes into three figures, which is akin to the 1986 Fleer MJ. I put in Orr because that is the vintage hockey card. I can see the argument for replacing him with someone else but who? Maybe Brady or LeBron?
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Prices do not bear that out. Russell is far more costly grade for grade. I got a fair Russell for $700 and was thrilled.

On hockey, Gretzky is the card to get. For a 1980 card, even a low grade one goes into three figures, which is akin to the 1986 Fleer MJ. I put in Orr because that is the vintage hockey card. I can see the argument for replacing him with someone else but who? Maybe Brady or LeBron?
If price is going to be your guidepost then that calls for a completely different list, no?
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Jordan was a tsunami in 1988-1989. Fleer's basketball offerings didn't flop. They were a good seller, similar to Topps Football and Hockey products of the time and Fleer kept making them.
Topps Hockey was a good seller? No way. Fleer's sets flopped. Or have we forgotten all the stories of Fleer's boxes selling for $5?
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Topps Hockey was a good seller? No way. Fleer's sets flopped. Or have we forgotten all the stories of Fleer's boxes selling for $5?
Oh, I will never, ever forget that! I was living in SF at the time in school and I went to some local card shows. One show in 1987 or 1988, this guy had an entire table of unopened 1986 Fleer basketball and tons of singles and I remember looking it over and thinking "who'd want that crap?"

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