PSA Re-Submission Advice Requested

DieMaus · #1 06-09-2023, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gr8Beldini

Hi. I have a few cards that were returned graded lower than expected. I know it happens to all of us. I plan on re-submitting a few of them. My question: From your experience, is it better to crack the slabs open and submit raw? ...or is it better to leave them slabbed and resubmit as-is. Any input would be appreciated.

I�m kind of new, so I apologize if my response lacks the experience of more seasoned collectors, but your request has sparked some curiosity and confusion on my part. It seems like you have doubts about the grading process and the integrity of the grading company, yet you're considering investing more time, money, and taking on additional risks to resubmit the cards. This raises the question of what the purpose of submitting cards for grading is if you don't have trust in the initial grade or the service.

While grading is subjective to some extent, and it's understandable that there can be discrepancies in the assessments, it's crucial to remember that grading aims to provide a standardized measure of a card's condition and establish a common language for collectors and investors. However, if you feel that the grading company you used is unreliable or didn't meet your expectations, perhaps exploring other grading companies with a more reputable track record could be an alternative worth considering. It might offer you a greater sense of confidence in the grading process?

It�s up to you if you�re willing to trust any tpg, but if you�re going to grade, it should be logical to put your time and money into something you can more or less trust?

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steve B · #2 06-09-2023, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DieMaus

I�m kind of new, so I apologize if my response lacks the experience of more seasoned collectors, but your request has sparked some curiosity and confusion on my part. It seems like you have doubts about the grading process and the integrity of the grading company, yet you're considering investing more time, money, and taking on additional risks to resubmit the cards. This raises the question of what the purpose of submitting cards for grading is if you don't have trust in the initial grade or the service.

While grading is subjective to some extent, and it's understandable that there can be discrepancies in the assessments, it's crucial to remember that grading aims to provide a standardized measure of a card's condition and establish a common language for collectors and investors. However, if you feel that the grading company you used is unreliable or didn't meet your expectations, perhaps exploring other grading companies with a more reputable track record could be an alternative worth considering. It might offer you a greater sense of confidence in the grading process?

It�s up to you if you�re willing to trust any tpg, but if you�re going to grade, it should be logical to put your time and money into something you can more or less trust?

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For many of us this is the riddle of grading.
We sometimes disagree on the grade, but generally trust the grading company.
Sort of...
We trust them to get the cards back to us graded hopefully mostly right.
But not necessarily to review a grade we don't agree with since it's easy to just glance at it and say "yep, still a 5" pack it back up and return it.

I may change some habits, but I'm not someone who flips cards.
But if you do, some hobby cash can be made buying nice cards and grading them. But if the grade is too low, the added price for the grade may not even cover the grading fees. and the difference between a 7 and an 8 could be where that happens. The jump between 8 and 9 is often a big one, and a 10 can be amazing. It's a tough game.

I did have a couple I wondered about with SGC, T206s that looked much better than the grade they got. I asked when they were doing on sie grading, and they did a quick and free review.
On one, it had a small erasure on the back that I had never spotted in 30+ years. The other had a very slight wrinkle in the border about halfway up the left side plus a couple other really minor things that added together made it a couple grades lower than I had thought.
So as it turned out, they weren't wrong.

GasHouseGang · #3 06-09-2023, 03:09 PM

If it's going from an SGC slab to PSA for grading I would definitely crack it out before submitting it. I feel it helps to keep PSA from being biased about what the grade should be.
I am curious though about resubmitting a card to PSA. I thought they claimed they scanned each card and could now tell if a card had already been submitted even if cracked out, through the use of some advanced software. Is that true or just urban legend?

pclpads · #4 06-09-2023, 03:23 PM

Unless you are foolish, or stinking rich, save your money. This gambit is simply a money-maker for PSA. Be satisfied with the grades you got. If not, buy a replacement in the grade you seek. Less costly! My neg. exp: several years ago, I had an Aaron RC in PSA 5. I thot it was nicer. So I cracked and re-subbed. To my horror, it came back as "Authentic - trimmed." This was the last time I got sucked into their little game.

MikeGarcia · #5 06-09-2023, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pclpads

Unless you are foolish, or stinking rich, save your money. This gambit is simply a money-maker for PSA. Be satisfied with the grades you got. If not, buy a replacement in the grade you seek. Less costly! My neg. exp: several years ago, I had an Aaron RC in PSA 5. I thought it was nicer. So I cracked and re-subbed. To my horror, it came back as "Authentic - trimmed." This was the last time I got sucked into their little game.

.. Can you please finish this saga ?? Inquiring minds want to know " okay then what " .. For my part I once cracked and re-submitted twice a one-owner 1957 Topps Ernie Banks until it finally came back as a PSA 8 , which it truly was. Thanks

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pclpads · #6 06-10-2023, 02:09 PM

I sold it to an N54 member looking for a clean Aaron RC for him to sign. This was after I got it back from PSA in a CS1 marked, "Authentic." Hope he was successful, since HA has stopped doing any more signings. LOL!

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