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| View Poll Results: Would you add these 4 19th Century player | |||
| YES to Jack Glasscock |
   
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53 | 63.10% |
| YES to Bobby Mathews |
  
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42 | 50.00% |
| YES to Jim McCormick |
  
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48 | 57.14% |
| YES to Tony Mullane |
  
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52 | 61.90% |
| NO to Jack Glasscock |
  
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21 | 25.00% |
| NO to Bobby Mathews |
  
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28 | 33.33% |
| NO to Jim McCormick |
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23 | 27.38% |
| NO to Tony Mullane |
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20 | 23.81% |
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06-22-2023, 12:33 PM
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Yes to McCormick, no to the others. McCormick's stature is documented by his multiple cards in the 1887 Old Judge short number set (Kelly is the other player with multiple cards). Personally, because of the importance of catchers in the game during this period, I favor Charlie Bennett over the other candidates. I also like Harry Stovey and Bob Caruthers a lot. With the new HOF voting system all are long shots though.
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06-22-2023, 01:05 PM
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06-22-2023, 01:34 PM
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Yes to McCormick only.
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06-22-2023, 01:46 PM
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McCormick yes is the only one I feel strongly about either way. There are 66 pitchers in the Hall of Fame already, and McCormick was better than two-thirds of them.
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06-22-2023, 01:58 PM
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I voted yes to all -- and would for several other 19th century players. Not that I am a "big hall" guy but I feel like the importance of this generation is a little under-represented in the HOF.
Glasscock, Jack N28 PSA 4 43006856.jpg Mathews, Bobby 1888 N172 JMO Authentic.jpg McCormick, Jim 1887 N172 Portrait SGC70 1227643-091.jpg Mullane, Count 1887 N172 OJ PSA 4 63660461.jpg
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06-22-2023, 02:00 PM
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I would like to see all of them in. But at this point I doubt any will get in.
But if I could only choose 1 it would be McCormick
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06-22-2023, 02:03 PM
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For those that are not familiar, SABR votes on its "Overlooked 19th Century Base Ball Legend" annually -- since 2009. Following is a link with all the information . . .
https://sabr.org/sabr-overlooked-19t...seball-legends
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06-22-2023, 02:28 PM
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06-22-2023, 02:33 PM
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McCormick and Mullane pitched a similar number of innings with almost the same ERA+. They have very similar value, I think. Interesting that they are seen so different thus far with McCormick clocking double the support.
McCormick and Mullane are a yes, Glasscock and Mathews are borderline. I’d probably vote for Glasscock too. Mathews was about league average, a Jim Kaat type of compiler. I wouldn’t be offended by his selection but probably would lean to ‘just misses’. None of the 4 have gotten a fair, serious look by the Hall.
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06-22-2023, 01:53 PM
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I voted Yes to all but Mullane, although he has a case too. Are any of these guys ever going to get in, though? It seems to me that we'll have a lot more Harold Baineses making it before the early years are properly acknowledged...
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