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Old 07-02-2023, 10:22 AM
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In the early 2000's, they had lines at the National. Their grading prices were much cheaper than PSA and they were actually considered on par with PSA grading tobacco cards at that time.

I have personally seen collectors/dealers submit hundreds of cards at a time with them at multiple Nationals in that earlier era.

I agree with Peter that the ownership has enough money and could care less whether they are #3 or #4 in the graded card market.

I think they could generate a lot of business even at a $25 level at the National with some limits as you suggest but it is very unlikely they would undertake such a venture.

They promised a new and better registry 3 years ago when they zapped their old one and alas, nothing.

They are what they are. A competent grading company that has great turn times but no desire to be more than they are.

In the early 2000's they at least tried to give PSA some level of competition.

No longer do they try!
Agree. And the lack of a registry continues to boggle my mind.
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Old 07-02-2023, 11:17 AM
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Agree. And the lack of a registry continues to boggle my mind.
Web developers and server admins cost money. They can't just give them $20 per hour and put them through a 5 hour training course like they can with graders. Who knew?
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Old 07-02-2023, 11:28 AM
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Web developers and server admins cost money. They can't just give them $20 per hour and put them through a 5 hour training course like they can with graders. Who knew?
They obviously had trained employees to do these tasks when they HAD a registry for many years. If they could not improve on it, they should have just kept the existing one.
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Old 07-02-2023, 03:07 PM
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Web developers and server admins cost money. They can't just give them $20 per hour and put them through a 5 hour training course like they can with graders. Who knew?
The bigger problem was the story we were fed by SGC that a new one was coming. What you said may be true, but then don't promise a new one.
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The bigger problem was the story we were fed by SGC that a new one was coming. What you said may be true, but then don't promise a new one.
They promised me they were just tinkering with the wording of their guarantee and it would be back on the website shortly. This was, maybe three plus years ago.
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They promised me they were just tinkering with the wording of their guarantee and it would be back on the website shortly. This was, maybe three plus years ago.
Which is worse?

No guarantee, or a meaningless guarantee?
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Old 07-02-2023, 04:31 PM
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Which is worse?

No guarantee, or a meaningless guarantee?

And therefore what? It was OK to drop the guarantee and lie about it? I am not sure I see your point.
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And therefore what? It was OK to drop the guarantee and lie about it? I am not sure I see your point.
HA. It was intended to be a primarily rhetorical question.

And to highlight that the existing guarantees we do have in this industry don’t mean anything. Ergo, the loss of the guarantee doesn’t seem to be a particularly terrible loss.
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Agree. And the lack of a registry continues to boggle my mind.
As part of my monthly nagging that I do to them, I gave them Hell again about the registry while in Chantilly last week.
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As part of my monthly nagging that I do to them, I gave them Hell again about the registry while in Chantilly last week.
What was the response?
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Old 07-04-2023, 05:10 PM
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What was the response?
They said that after every show, they have a sit-down to discuss customer concerns that were brought up at the show and the registry is always among the the top three things mentioned. They understand collectors want it, but I don’t know that they had a solid reply beyond that.
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