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Old 07-02-2023, 03:38 PM
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The bigger problem was the story we were fed by SGC that a new one was coming. What you said may be true, but then don't promise a new one.
They promised me they were just tinkering with the wording of their guarantee and it would be back on the website shortly. This was, maybe three plus years ago.
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Old 07-02-2023, 04:13 PM
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They promised me they were just tinkering with the wording of their guarantee and it would be back on the website shortly. This was, maybe three plus years ago.
Which is worse?

No guarantee, or a meaningless guarantee?
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Old 07-02-2023, 04:31 PM
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Which is worse?

No guarantee, or a meaningless guarantee?

And therefore what? It was OK to drop the guarantee and lie about it? I am not sure I see your point.
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And therefore what? It was OK to drop the guarantee and lie about it? I am not sure I see your point.
HA. It was intended to be a primarily rhetorical question.

And to highlight that the existing guarantees we do have in this industry don’t mean anything. Ergo, the loss of the guarantee doesn’t seem to be a particularly terrible loss.
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HA. It was intended to be a primarily rhetorical question.

And to highlight that the existing guarantees we do have in this industry don’t mean anything. Ergo, the loss of the guarantee doesn’t seem to be a particularly terrible loss.
It's not, but I did not like the attitude or the disingenuousness.
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It's not, but I did not like the attitude or the disingenuousness.
If you will indulge me further, perhaps you could share why you feel the erstwhile guarantee would be meaningful, were it to be reinstated?
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If you will indulge me further, perhaps you could share why you feel the erstwhile guarantee would be meaningful, were it to be reinstated?
Unlike PSA where the horror stories are legion, I had never heard of SGC not honoring the "erstwhile" guarantee. And it was the middle third of the company's NAME for god's sake. So yeah trashing it was a big deal IMO.
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It's not, but I did not like the attitude or the disingenuousness.

Wasn't this also around the time where SGC closed up the autograph authentication portion of their business after it was discovered that they had authenticated forged sigs on T206s? This way they did not have to write checks. Classy move.

Once again, the hobby forgives these types of actions by the TPG. We all bitch and moan about how strict they are, how unfair it is, how horrible it is they grade altered cards and refuse to buy them back, how expensive it is to grade or how long the wait is and now we are upset SGC will not show up to the National yet most or all of us forgive them for all of this and send them more money. There is nothing that they could do that would stop us from sending them more money.
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Wasn't this also around the time where SGC closed up the autograph authentication portion of their business after it was discovered that they had authenticated forged sigs on T206s? This way they did not have to write checks. Classy move.

Once again, the hobby forgives these types of actions by the TPG. We all bitch and moan about how strict they are, how unfair it is, how horrible it is they grade altered cards and refuse to buy them back, how expensive it is to grade or how long the wait is and now we are upset SGC will not show up to the National yet most or all of us forgive them for all of this and send them more money. There is nothing that they could do that would stop us from sending them more money.
Seems like a nice business to be in!
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