The First Five, Who Are You Going To Take

DodgerMike22 · #1 07-22-2023, 04:22 AM

Can�t go wrong with any one of those guys but I�d take the Babe #1

Mark · #2 07-22-2023, 05:06 AM

Wagner played every day at shortstop, and he could hit some, too. I'd go with him.

rats60 · #3 07-22-2023, 06:11 AM

If we are talking about drafting a 9 man team, I am taking Honus Wagner. The gap from him to the #2 shortstop is bigger than from Ruth to the #2-8 corner outfielder. Bill James has Wagner as the #2 player of all time.

I would take Mays over Cobb, so I wouldn't pick him. Likewise, there is too much depth at pitcher to take Johnson (or Matty).

UKCardGuy · #4 07-22-2023, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rats60

If we are talking about drafting a 9 man team, I am taking Honus Wagner. The gap from him to the #2 shortstop is bigger than from Ruth to the #2-8 corner outfielder. Bill James has Wagner as the #2 player of all time.

I would take Mays over Cobb, so I wouldn't pick him. Likewise, there is too much depth at pitcher to take Johnson (or Matty).

This! It's Wagner for me. Batting, base stealing, defensive skills and a leader.

cgjackson222 · #5 07-22-2023, 07:59 AM

Ruth (greatest ever), then Wagner (best shortstop).

The fact that Cobb never won a championship may be partially due to the fact that his teammates never liked him and he was not great for team morale. And he didn't live up to expectations in postseason play.

All of the other guys won at least one championship.

Its a tossup between Johnson and Mathewson. As fast as Johnson pitched, I feel like players these days can hit the fastball. Not sure they could hit all of Mathewson's pitches.

brunswickreeves · #6 07-22-2023, 08:45 AM

From an investment perspective, I'd take Ruth given he'd produce the absolute best ROI.

He transcended baseball and drew unprecedented crowds everywhere he went. He'd also draw other great players to my team, which would further strengthen my dynasty, produce post season play, and championships (all maximizing $).

EddieP · #7 07-22-2023, 08:57 AM

Ruth. You get two players for the price of one. If it weren�t for WWI, Ruth would have been a HOF pitcher. Tris Speaker said, � Ruth made a grave mistake when he gave up pitching. Working once a week he might have lasted a long time and become a great star."

Hankphenom · #8 07-22-2023, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cgjackson222

As fast as Johnson pitched, I feel like players these days can hit the fastball. Not sure they could hit all of Mathewson's pitches.

Oh, I'm sure the players of Johnson's time could hit the fastball, too, they just couldn't hit HIS. Big difference there.

robertsmithnocure · #9 07-22-2023, 09:55 AM

1. Ruth
2. Johnson
3. Wagner
4. Cobb
5. Mathewson

Beercan collector · #10 07-22-2023, 10:04 AM

Ruth
It�s about championshipS
.. Not 1 .. Not 2 .. Not 3 .. Not 4 .. Not 5 .. Not 6 .. 😊

cgjackson222 · #11 07-22-2023, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Oh, I'm sure the players of Johnson's time could hit the fastball, too, they just couldn't hit HIS. Big difference there.

I'm just recognizing that there aren't that many guys that can make a living off one pitch these days. Maybe Johnson could, maybe he couldn't.