SGC Delays

[jimmer77]

My latest order was received by SGC in 9/7 and I received them back today 9/16.

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by jimmer77

My latest order was received by SGC in 9/7 and I received them back today 9/16.

To SGC that is a "delay" lol

To PSA it would be a Miracle and we all know miracles don't happen.....except in 1980 and that was pre-PSA!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Why is it the SGC cheerleaders studiously avoid responding to posts by people showing SGC misgraded their cards?

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why is it the SGC cheerleaders studiously avoid responding to posts by people showing SGC misgraded their cards?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLyGbid4NdI&t=4s

[53toppscollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why is it the SGC cheerleaders studiously avoid responding to posts by people showing SGC misgraded their cards?

these grading companies have literally graded millions of cards. they are always going to undergrade (or overgrade) a percentage of cards just based on volume. if you want perfection, you shouldnt grade cards. ive had lots of cards come back in what id consider "undergraded" and ive had a few come back graded higher than i thought they would. all in the game.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 53toppscollector

these grading companies have literally graded millions of cards. they are always going to undergrade (or overgrade) a percentage of cards just based on volume. if you want perfection, you shouldnt grade cards. ive had lots of cards come back in what id consider "undergraded" and ive had a few come back graded higher than i thought they would. all in the game.

Thanks for the education. I am talking about entire orders being 2 grades (or more) too low. Not to mention hearing from many people they are having the same issue.

[53toppscollector]

"2 grades too low" for a whole order is something i havent ever encountered.

its also pretty hard to post a card online and ask people to critique the grade when they cant actually see the card or the surface, because its a 2d scan.

all the grading companies make mistakes. ive seen lots of random youtube videos of someone getting a 4 or 5, cracking it and re-sending, and then getting a 7 or 8. it happens. but again, we are talking about insane volume, there will be mistakes. plenty of people also dont examine their own cards with a 30x loupe and check the surface for issues before sending.

i've probably graded 500-600 cards with PSA and 300-400 cards with SGC. ive had cards come back that look like they are too low or higher than i thought, but ive never had an order of 20 cards come back where every card is 2 grades off.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 53toppscollector

"2 grades too low" for a whole order is something i havent ever encountered.

its also pretty hard to post a card online and ask people to critique the grade when they cant actually see the card or the surface, because its a 2d scan.

all the grading companies make mistakes. ive seen lots of random youtube videos of someone getting a 4 or 5, cracking it and re-sending, and then getting a 7 or 8. it happens. but again, we are talking about insane volume, there will be mistakes. plenty of people also dont examine their own cards with a 30x loupe and check the surface for issues before sending.

i've probably graded 500-600 cards with PSA and 300-400 cards with SGC. ive had cards come back that look like they are too low or higher than i thought, but ive never had an order of 20 cards come back where every card is 2 grades off.

Yes, of course one would expect some deviances within any order, I would not have made my statement if that's all it was. As for the scan, I was asked to post it, I am not asking anyone to conclude anything. I think there were 35 cards in my order, all vintage. Nearly every one was 2 grades low. Nothing higher than 6 and I thought many would 8 or even 9 they were gorgeous cards.

[Vintagedeputy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why is it the SGC cheerleaders studiously avoid responding to posts by people showing SGC misgraded their cards?

Do you have an example?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy

Do you have an example?

The worst one in an entire order of undergraded vintage cards. The back is perfect, louped it many times.

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why is it the SGC cheerleaders studiously avoid responding to posts by people showing SGC misgraded their cards?

Both PSA and SGC are fully capable of misgrading our cards, but if we're comparing the two against each other, SGC is far, far more accurate and consistent on a percentage of cards graded basis than PSA is. It's really not close.

However, if we're comparing either company to grades that cards received 20 years ago, then both have tightened up their grading standards as compared to the early days of grading. But PSA took it an additional step too far during the pandemic, and they have yet to course correct. That isn't the case with SGC. They're merely tighter than they were decades ago, but are still grading fairly accurately for the most part, in my experience. And I grade a lot of cards with both and keep good records.