Heritage Auctions - Boston Garters

[Johnny630]

Did heritage ever send you an invoice??? If not I'm curious why did you send them money?

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Did heritage ever send you an invoice??? If not I'm curious why did you send them money?

Because he thinks this is going to help his court case. It won't. At this point, he's just being a sore loser. I suspect the kicking and screaming will continue all the way to the courtroom now. I also suspect the judge will recognize it as such.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Because he thinks this is going to help his court case. It won't. At this point, he's just being a sore loser. I suspect the kicking and screaming will continue all the way to the courtroom now. I also suspect the judge will recognize it as such.

It's not Snow you're correct. This is so silly I hope he makes peace with it and moves on he obviously has the money..... just be happy with your collection you have. Geez it's just cards.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

It's not Snow you're correct. This is so silly I hope he makes peace with it and moves on he obviously has the money..... just be happy with your collection you have. Geez it's just cards.

Why is it silly? Powell clearly got screwed from a fairness standpoint and it is something that means a lot to him.

[Johnny630]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why is it silly? Powell clearly got screwed from a fairness standpoint and it is something that means a lot to him.

Didn't receive an invoice, I would not send without so.

[Powell]

Thank you Peter. I don’t appreciate being called a “sore loser.” I have lost thousands of lots over the years with no complaint. I believe I won legitimately and I don’t think anyone thinks it was fair to close the set lot if I didn’t win and the battle “wasn’t over” even though I believe it was.

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why is it silly? Powell clearly got screwed from a fairness standpoint and it is something that means a lot to him.

I agree he got screwed but if I was looking to spend $750,000 on something I really, really wanted, I think in the 3 weeks before the end of the auction I would have called my contact at Heritage and questioned how the auction worked and that I wanted a call if my set bid was beaten so I would have a chance to bid again before the auction closed rather than counting on a formatted auction to take care of me.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by rand1com

I agree he got screwed but if I was looking to spend $750,000 on something I really, really wanted, I think in the 3 weeks before the end of the auction I would have called my contact at Heritage and questioned how the auction worked and that I wanted a call if my set bid was beaten so I would have a chance to bid again before the auction closed rather than counting on a formatted auction to take care of me.

Sounds like hindsight. Seems reasonable to assume the biggest auction house on earth would set it up right.

[Powell]

I have bought in auctions for 20 years. I have never called in advance. I trust the website.

[rand1com]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sounds like hindsight. Seems reasonable to assume the biggest auction house on earth would set it up right.

It was reasonable, just not true.

[nolemmings]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sounds like hindsight. Seems reasonable to assume the biggest auction house on earth would set it up right.

Yes and no. Personally, if it were me, I would have looked immediately at the individual lots once my Full set lot closed and declared me the winner. I would not need to tabulate the totals of all 12 cards, but could see that one or more remained open with clocks still running. This would alert me that something was amiss and I would be on the phone at once.

Sounds like the real loser was the consignor, as some pretty meaningful $$$ were left on the table due the bungling manner that this was set up and explained.

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Johnny630

Geez it's just cards.

I don’t think we’re allowed to say that around here.

[notfast]

This isn’t the first time an auction has ran as a set and individually, right?

I feel like a high grade 52 Topps set was run like this fairly recently.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by notfast

This isn’t the first time an auction has ran as a set and individually, right?

I feel like a high grade 52 Topps set was run like this fairly recently.

It's probably the first time this type of auction was run in an "individual lot closing" format. That's the issue here.... Heritage's software was not properly equipped to handle the overtime bidding.

[brunswickreeves]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Because he thinks this is going to help his court case. It won't. At this point, he's just being a sore loser. I suspect the kicking and screaming will continue all the way to the courtroom now. I also suspect the judge will recognize it as such.

Will be interesting to see if the wire is accepted or rejected and what that might signal to substantiate or refute in this situation.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Snowman

Because he thinks this is going to help his court case. It won't. At this point, he's just being a sore loser. I suspect the kicking and screaming will continue all the way to the courtroom now. I also suspect the judge will recognize it as such.

Once Heritage ships the cards around the country, rendering a claim for specific performance impractical, I don't see where this goes in court. There doesn't seem to be a damages claim here at first blush. Powell's best hope is Heritage does something now to rectify the situation it caused.