1952T Mantle price drops

jingram058 · #1 10-30-2023, 02:47 PM

I don't even want one. It's a hideous, cartoonish piece of cardboard. To pay that kind of money for cardboard is stupid when folks struggle to make ends meet. All it is is an investment for the one percenters. Big f-ing deal.

Peter_Spaeth · #2 10-30-2023, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jingram058

I don't even want one. It's a hideous, cartoonish piece of cardboard. To pay that kind of money for cardboard is stupid when folks struggle to make ends meet. All it is is an investment for the one percenters. Big f-ing deal.

But James, if you disapprove of people spending a lot of money on cards, aren't you with due respect kind of in the wrong place?

Madi$on18joshua · #3 10-31-2023, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

But James, if you disapprove of people spending a lot of money on cards, aren't you with due respect kind of in the wrong place?

exactly???? what is the purpose of the comment to this group? definitely not well recieved.

Touch'EmAll · #4 10-31-2023, 07:43 PM

Gee, didn't we just have a thread about Wagner cards going up ?

And didn't Mantle cards get pumped up and were particularly hot during the recent boom ?

What goes up too fast has a better chance of falling when the hype is over. See what '86 Fleer Jordan's have done lately.

The argument in favor of Wagner is the scarcity. Not quite so with the Mick. I just hope T206's can hold steady-ish.

Snapolit1 · #5 10-31-2023, 07:57 PM

Markets go up and markets go down and sometimes they stagnate. Trees don't grow to the sky as they say on the Street.

It's funny that there are people on the board who are always crying things are about to crash to the floor, and other who can't force themselves to admit that prices have dropped on a lot of vintage.

For that lack of a better expression, it is what it is. A time of financial uncertainty for a lot of people. Enjoy what you have and chill on the sidelines for a while if need be. A financial friend told me that the average American has a surplus of $8 in their check account right now.

Hobby still an enjoyable place to spend some time and admire cool baseball stuff. I've learned in recent years to enjoy cool stuff no matter the value or the price.

jingram058 · #6 11-01-2023, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Madi$on18joshua

exactly???? what is the purpose of the comment to this group? definitely not well recieved.

Who gives a flying f$&k

icurnmedic · #7 10-30-2023, 02:57 PM

Ive had three over the years, of course sold before the run. I personally like the card, but not sure if that is predicated on it being the Top post war card in existence.
Would like to have another , but prices are going to need to come back down to a "reasonable " level, not sure that will ever happen.
I expect a correction in most cards , including Mantle and clearly there is weakening to Peters point.
I don't expect the 3's to come down to less than 20k again though.

ALR-bishop · #8 10-30-2023, 03:00 PM

Is there a cross over point where the price you are willing to pay for a card, any card, puts you in the stupid category ?

G1911 · #9 10-30-2023, 03:20 PM

Impossible; I was told by this board that the cards being hyped are the safest picks and inexorably go up, and I should drain my 401K taking a massive tax loss to invest into these hype cards and also take out loans to buy more cards to help pump investors portfolios. I mean, to invest for myself.

icurnmedic · #10 10-30-2023, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Is there a cross over point where the price you are willing to pay for a card, any card, puts you in the stupid category ?

Well maybe that could be argued, but conversely is there ever a point where you are stupid not to buy? I think these questions aren't mutually exclusive.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #11 10-30-2023, 03:44 PM

Cartoonish? I think it's beautiful. Plenty of cartoonish cards in the 1950-52 Bowman and '53 Topps. Yes, I said it. Many 1953 Topps are hideous. Don't understand the praise most of the time.

mrreality68 · #12 10-30-2023, 04:21 PM

I say we do a go fund me page for net54 baseball so Leon can purchase one

Beercan collector · #13 10-30-2023, 04:40 PM

Wow it’s the same card somebody lost $850,000 ,
(Unless of course it changed hands between sales)

Republicaninmass · #14 10-30-2023, 05:12 PM

More Pain will be coming.

Peter_Spaeth · #15 10-30-2023, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Beercan collector

Wow it�s the same card somebody lost $850,000 ,
(Unless of course it changed hands between sales)

Good ROI.

Rhotchkiss · #16 10-30-2023, 05:50 PM

Here is VCP data on PSA 8’s (the 1st pic) and PSA 2’s (the 2nd pic). I recognize that eye appeal can vary much more between PSA 2’s vs PSA 8’s (all of which should be dang nice), but it appears the card in both grades has come down about 50% from their peaks.

I think it’s a upper-most/top card, just like the 1987 Fleer Jordan. But, also like the Fleer Jordan, they are plentiful and available. Anyone willing to spend the cash can get one. It seems like there are 2-4 in every large auction I look at (Heritage, REA, etc) and 5-8 in every Goldin auction. It’s just too common a card. PSA 8s may not be as common, but at that point you may be buying the flip and not the card. If you have the money and you want a Mantle (or Jordan), just wait until the next auction and you will have plenty to choose from.

Yoda · #17 10-30-2023, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

Cartoonish? I think it's beautiful. Plenty of cartoonish cards in the 1950-52 Bowman and '53 Topps. Yes, I said it. Many 1953 Topps are hideous. Don't understand the praise most of the time.

Like the '51 Bowman of Paul Richards.

brianp-beme · #18 10-31-2023, 04:02 PM

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Like the '51 Bowman of Paul Richards.

I might be sticking my neck out on this, but I believe the 1951 Bowman of Paul Richards is a fine looking, interesting card. If you beg to differ, feel free to share your opinion...I'm all ears.

A playing card set should be issued where all the players are drawn in caricature and have elongated necks. It could be called the All Necks on Deck.

Brian (one of the artists must have really hated Paul Richards, or perhaps accidentally slipped into caricature mode)

MikeGarcia · #19 10-31-2023, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme

I might be sticking my neck out on this, but I believe the 1951 Bowman of Paul Richards is a fine looking, interesting card. If you beg to differ, feel free to share your opinion...I'm all ears.

A playing card set should be issued where all the players are drawn in caricature and have elongated necks. It could be called the All Necks on Deck.

Brian (one of the artists must have really hated Paul Richards, or perhaps accidentally slipped into caricature mode)

.. that jawline cries out for caricature

butchie_t · #20 10-30-2023, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Is there a cross over point where the price you are willing to pay for a card, any card, puts you in the stupid category ?

Reasonably or unreasonably sure I passed that point a while ago.

NYYFan63 · #21 10-30-2023, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jingram058

I don't even want one. It's a hideous, cartoonish piece of cardboard. To pay that kind of money for cardboard is stupid when folks struggle to make ends meet. All it is is an investment for the one percenters. Big f-ing deal.

People that have the means to buy that card worked hard for their money, so I would refrain from telling people how they should spend their money. Just my $.02�

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G1911 · #22 10-30-2023, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by NYYFan63

People that have the means to buy that card worked hard for their money, so I would refrain from telling people how they should spend their money. Just my $.02�

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I�d agree, but the Mantle investors don�t seem to have a problem telling everyone else to spend their hard-earned money to further pump investors favored card(s)

. Seems like it should go both ways then. Posts would drop like 50% if people didn�t advise or tell others how and what and for how much they should buy cards and spend their money.

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