Helmar cards

Leon · #1 12-15-2023, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by rjackson44

What is your opinion on them?

They are very nice for other collectors to collect.
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eliotdeutsch · #2 12-15-2023, 12:46 PM

I hate to say it. Im struggling to see how they are any better than using AI to generate a famous baseball image and then making a high resolution print?

This can all be done at virtually no cost.

John1941 · #3 12-15-2023, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by eliotdeutsch

I hate to say it. Im struggling to see how they are any better than using AI to generate a famous baseball image and then making a high resolution print?

This can all be done at virtually no cost.

They're well-designed - very visually attractive. I really doubt AI would come up with anything close to Helmar cards. Also, (I don't own any Helmars myself) but it seems like physically they are nicer than mere hi-res prints.

Lucas00 · #4 12-15-2023, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by John1941

They're well-designed - very visually attractive. I really doubt AI would come up with anything close to Helmar cards. Also, (I don't own any Helmars myself) but it seems like physically they are nicer than mere hi-res prints.

Ai couldn't come close at this point in time. The attention to detail (E.g the rolled lace glove on my Red that I shared) and wide variety of players is definitely beyond its capability. We're talking tons of Negro league and obscure 19th century players that don't even have images when googled. You need a human hand to make this quality.

eliotdeutsch · #5 12-15-2023, 01:46 PM

I think you’re underestimating AI.

You can feed it an image. Which is no different than Helmar imagery, based on existing images.

But if you like them. Collect them I guess.

Lucas00 · #6 12-15-2023, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by eliotdeutsch

I think you�re underestimating AI.

You can feed it an image. Which is no different than Helmar imagery, based on existing images.

But if you like them. Collect them I guess.

There is always something inhuman about Ai art at this point in time. If it can't even do a standard human right, there's no way in hell it could get the intricate details and quality of a historical baseball image. Go feed any ai image generator a helmar card or a script of what you want it to create. Watch the monstrosities it creates that are not even on the same planet of quality.

But I have no doubt it may reach that point one day.

Here's the best I can currently do after spending a while.
Tried to do something helmar might actually make, babe Ruth and satchel paige. Let's just say.... It's not there yet.

brianp-beme · #7 12-15-2023, 02:15 PM

The Babe does look fairly decent, with a distinct Muhammad Ali vibe. And Satchell...perhaps a combination of Ernie Banks and Gary Coleman?

Brian

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Originally Posted by Lucas00

Tried to do something helmar might actually make, babe Ruth and satchel paige. Let's just say.... It's not there yet.

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