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Old 01-23-2024, 05:42 PM
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Congrats to Adrian Beltre, Joe Mauer, and Todd Helton.

Beltré's 95.1% is the highest-ever for a Dominican-born player, topping the 92.89% from Vladimir Guerrero in 2018. George Brett will remain the leader for the highest vote percentage ever by a third baseman at 98.19%.

Mauer becomes just the third catcher ever to be elected as a first-ballot Hall of Famer after earning 76.1% of the vote. Previously, only Johnny Bench and Ivan Rodríguez made it through on their first chance. Bench's 96.42% of the vote remains the standard at the position.

Billy Wagner's attempt to become just the ninth Hall of Fame reliever fell just short. He finished with 73.8%, or five votes shy of induction. Gary Sheffield, meanwhile, received 63.9% of the vote in his 10th and final year on the ballot.

Carlos Beltran saw the biggest jump--going from 45.6% to 57.1%. Sheffield went to 63.9% from 55%, Andrew Jones went up ~3%, and most players saw little change, with ARod KRod Pettitte and Vizquel actually going down a bit.
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Helton got in with more room to spare than expected while Mauer made it by 4 votes and Wagner missed by 5 votes with 1 more year on the ballot.
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Baseball Hall of Fame Announces 2024 Hall of Fame Voting Results
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The Hall of What ??? I wear my yankee hat out and about and anytime in the past 2 weeks anybody mentioned Baseball I asked them if they knew who Joe Mauer was. I was 1 for 18 with 17 responding ...who? So they have gone from the Hall of Fame to the Hall of Who?....How did he get in? ...
Shoeless Joe and Pete Rose are banned and cannot be voted in. Everyone understands that. I understand that. I will never understand How Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and Arod are not in a place called the Baseball Hall of Fame. And By the way all 18 knew who Barry Bonds , Roger Clemens and Alex Rodriguez are.
And Andy Pettite won 256 games 60% winning percentage won over 100 more games than lost. Was 19 and 11 in postseason pithing 276 innings. Andy has Five world Series Rings All 3 of 2024's Hall of Fame class have zero...rings combined. And Only 13.5% of Baseball writers voting listed Andy....Chase Utley got 28% of voters voting for him... lol I no longer vist the Hall of fame. I do not support the Hall of Fame in any way. Simply because the sign on the front door is a lie. It is not the Baseball hall of Fame.
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The Hall of What ??? I wear my yankee hat out and about and anytime in the past 2 weeks anybody mentioned Baseball I asked them if they knew who Joe Mauer was. I was 1 for 18 with 17 responding ...who? So they have gone from the Hall of Fame to the Hall of Who?....How did he get in? ...
Shoeless Joe and Pete Rose are banned and cannot be voted in. Everyone understands that. I understand that. I will never understand How Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and Arod are not in a place called the Baseball Hall of Fame. And By the way all 18 knew who Barry Bonds , Roger Clemens and Alex Rodriguez are.
And Andy Pettite won 256 games 60% winning percentage won over 100 more games than lost. Was 19 and 11 in postseason pithing 276 innings. Andy has Five world Series Rings All 3 of 2024's Hall of Fame class have zero...rings combined. And Only 13.5% of Baseball writers voting listed Andy....Chase Utley got 28% of voters voting for him... lol I no longer vist the Hall of fame. I do not support the Hall of Fame in any way. Simply because the sign on the front door is a lie. It is not the Baseball hall of Fame.
Have you seen the players elected in the early days of the Hall of Fame? Fred Clarke, Tommy McCarthy, Ray Schalk, etc. If the Hall of Fame can be disqualified from its claim to its name by electing a few people who aren't really famous or great, it has been disqualified for about 80 years already.
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The Hall of What ??? I wear my yankee hat out and about and anytime in the past 2 weeks anybody mentioned Baseball I asked them if they knew who Joe Mauer was. I was 1 for 18 with 17 responding ...who? So they have gone from the Hall of Fame to the Hall of Who?....How did he get in? ...
Shoeless Joe and Pete Rose are banned and cannot be voted in. Everyone understands that. I understand that. I will never understand How Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and Arod are not in a place called the Baseball Hall of Fame. And By the way all 18 knew who Barry Bonds , Roger Clemens and Alex Rodriguez are.
And Andy Pettite won 256 games 60% winning percentage won over 100 more games than lost. Was 19 and 11 in postseason pithing 276 innings. Andy has Five world Series Rings All 3 of 2024's Hall of Fame class have zero...rings combined. And Only 13.5% of Baseball writers voting listed Andy....Chase Utley got 28% of voters voting for him... lol I no longer vist the Hall of fame. I do not support the Hall of Fame in any way. Simply because the sign on the front door is a lie. It is not the Baseball hall of Fame.
Mauer has greater name recognition, as a recent star, then at least 50% of the HOF inductees. This is not logical.
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Old 01-23-2024, 11:09 PM
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Mauer has greater name recognition, as a recent star, then at least 50% of the HOF inductees. This is not logical.

I Did not compare Mauer to any other HoF inductees. I compared him To Barry Bonds Roger Clemens and Alex Rodriguez. None of whom are currently in the Hall of Fame. All of the 3 are by any measurement among the best to ever play the game. That is not Logical.
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The Hall of What ??? I wear my yankee hat out and about and anytime in the past 2 weeks anybody mentioned Baseball I asked them if they knew who Joe Mauer was. I was 1 for 18 with 17 responding ...who? So they have gone from the Hall of Fame to the Hall of Who?....How did he get in? ...
Shoeless Joe and Pete Rose are banned and cannot be voted in. Everyone understands that. I understand that. I will never understand How Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and Arod are not in a place called the Baseball Hall of Fame. And By the way all 18 knew who Barry Bonds , Roger Clemens and Alex Rodriguez are.
And Andy Pettite won 256 games 60% winning percentage won over 100 more games than lost. Was 19 and 11 in postseason pithing 276 innings. Andy has Five world Series Rings All 3 of 2024's Hall of Fame class have zero...rings combined. And Only 13.5% of Baseball writers voting listed Andy....Chase Utley got 28% of voters voting for him... lol I no longer vist the Hall of fame. I do not support the Hall of Fame in any way. Simply because the sign on the front door is a lie. It is not the Baseball hall of Fame.
Plenty of people are probably talking about football right now. See how many people you run into can name anyone who got into the NFL Hall of Fame last year or recognize the names if you tell them who was. I think the results will be similar to what you found with Mauer.

https://www.profootballhof.com/news/...class-of-2023/
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Yanks fans should be more happy this Mauer vote opens up Jorge Posada for a HOF Vet bid.

If 7-8 year "peaks" matter so much for catchers now, 2000-2007 Posada should carry some weight.
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Plenty of people are probably talking about football right now. See how many people you run into can name anyone who got into the NFL Hall of Fame last year or recognize the names if you tell them who was. I think the results will be similar to what you found with Mauer.

https://www.profootballhof.com/news/...class-of-2023/
For most of the class of 2023 you are right not alot if name recognition. Ronde Barber's Brother Tiki is the Afternoon Host on WFAN so alot around here are going to know him...And Joe Klecko gonna be known by Almost anyone in Green and White north of the Raritan River. Sack Exchange Pictures still populate alot of sports bar Walls. ..
If Canton was keeping out 3 of the Top 30 to have ever played Football I would be complain about them as well. But their not.. Football seems to run a pretty solid HOF..
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The Hall of What ??? I wear my yankee hat out and about and anytime in the past 2 weeks anybody mentioned Baseball I asked them if they knew who Joe Mauer was. I was 1 for 18 with 17 responding ...who? So they have gone from the Hall of Fame to the Hall of Who?....How did he get in? ...
Shoeless Joe and Pete Rose are banned and cannot be voted in. Everyone understands that. I understand that. I will never understand How Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens and Arod are not in a place called the Baseball Hall of Fame. And By the way all 18 knew who Barry Bonds , Roger Clemens and Alex Rodriguez are.
And Andy Pettite won 256 games 60% winning percentage won over 100 more games than lost. Was 19 and 11 in postseason pithing 276 innings. Andy has Five world Series Rings All 3 of 2024's Hall of Fame class have zero...rings combined. And Only 13.5% of Baseball writers voting listed Andy....Chase Utley got 28% of voters voting for him... lol I no longer vist the Hall of fame. I do not support the Hall of Fame in any way. Simply because the sign on the front door is a lie. It is not the Baseball hall of Fame.
If people don’t know who Joe Mauer is, that sounds like their problems.

I also wonder how much baseball they pay attention to, considering his greatness at the plate - MVP, rated a top 10 catcher all time by JAWS, a record three batting titles at his position and the first catcher to win a batting title since Ernie Lombardi.

People know who Bonds is, who Shoeless Joe, Pete Rose and A-Rod are, but name recognition or lack thereof is not a good qualification for a Hall of Fame in my book.

Wins and rings are team accomplishments, and the Hall of Fame is an individual honor. It’s one thing if you want to judge managers, executives, owners by this standard. I don’t think players should be judged as such.
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And Andy Pettite won 256 games 60% winning percentage won over 100 more games than lost. Was 19 and 11 in postseason pithing 276 innings.
Besides not being particularly great, with only two seasons under 3.00 ERA and no Cy Young awards, Pettite is also an admitted PED guy. Not really a mystery why he's not in.
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Did Gaylord Perry “cheat”? I believe that he has admitted numerous times to doctoring the ball. He’s still in the HOF though, right? Mauer is really marginal, Helton hit in Colorado (I know, he was just playing the hand that he was dealt, not his choice to have been drafted by the Rockies but career road numbers pale in comparison and double those in place of the high altitude and I don’t think there is any chance that he’s a HOF’er). Those two making the Hall in modern times with the system the way it is as well as historically been, no excuse for Bonds, Clemens and A-Rod to be left out. I think the baseball writers have sent a clear message to us how they feel about the steroid era, now it’s time to move on and recognize the all-time greats alongside their contemporaries and historical counterparts.

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mauers batting titles as a catcher are what got him in first ballot...imho.
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Did Gaylord Perry “cheat”? I believe that he has admitted numerous times to doctoring the ball. He’s still in the HOF though, right? Mauer is really marginal, Helton hit in Colorado (I know, he was just playing the hand that he was dealt, not his choice to have been drafted by the Rockies but career road numbers pale in comparison and double those in place of the high altitude and I don’t think there is any chance that he’s a HOF’er). Those two making the Hall in modern times with the system the way it is as well as historically been, no excuse for Bonds, Clemens and A-Rod to be left out. I think the baseball writers have sent a clear message to us how they feel about the steroid era, now it’s time to move on and recognize the all-time greats alongside their contemporaries and historical counterparts.
can we elect them and not have to listen to them?
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