Kurt's Card Care

Lorewalker · #1 04-21-2024, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal

Agreed.

Did they decertify the Wemby 1/1? That thing is forever tainted, at least for the next few days ... after that, stuff is usually forgotten

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Neal I do not know the whole story on the Wemby 1/1 but it is still active. https://www.psacard.com/cert/88489182

I heard someone (the submitter or someone with the submitter) in the lobby at PSA after they handed him/them the card back, did a shout out to Kurt's Card Care. If that is the basis for people saying it should be deactivated, that is weak, imo.

Again, PSA and all TPG, need to catch stuff. If they cannot catch stuff then, put a W in the card doctor's column. Maybe there is nothing to detect...at the time of grading.

SyrNy1960 · #2 04-22-2024, 11:28 AM

In the 70's, when collecting was so much simpler, we did have a guy who was known for pressing out wrinkles on cards, and he sold them at our local card shows. If someone was interested in a card that he pressed the wrinkles out, he always made buyers aware (we actually all knew him as the winkle guy), and he never charged more money than what the card would have been worth with wrinkles.

I didn't really think much of that being a bad thing back then. I'm sure more things were being done to cards back then, but never really thought much of it.

Today, this is crazy what's being done. So many cards being soaked, trimmed, re-colored, pressed out, etc., so I can see why the true card collectors are angry over it. Sad.

Peter_Spaeth · #3 04-22-2024, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SyrNy1960

In the 70's, when collecting was so much simpler, we did have a guy who was known for pressing out wrinkles on cards, and he sold them at our local card shows. If someone was interested in a card that he pressed the wrinkles out, he always made buyers aware (we actually all knew him as the winkle guy), and he never charged more money than what the card would have been worth with wrinkles.

I didn't really think much of that being a bad thing back then. I'm sure more things were being done to cards back then, but never really thought much of it.

Today, this is crazy what's being done. So many cards being soaked, trimmed, re-colored, pressed out, etc., so I can see why the true card collectors are angry over it. Sad.

For me, the issue isn't what's being done. It's the deception.

G1911 · #4 04-22-2024, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

For me, the issue isn't what's being done. It's the deception.

+1. One may do whatever they wish with their property. It annoys me personally when people destroy unique uncut items and such, but my feelings don�t change whose property it is and what they are within their rights to do. Doctor a card, cut up a unique sheet, toss it into the fireplace and watch it burn, everyone may do as they wish with their rightful property. When they pass the problem to someone else with a coverup or series of lies, that�s where the problem is and is, of course, the entire point of the original alteration. It is done for profit, some by our regular scumbags who endorse defrauding people and advocate lying by omission or directly lying when selling.

Lorewalker · #5 04-22-2024, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

It is done for profit, some by our regular scumbags who endorse defrauding people and advocate lying by omission or directly lying when selling.

But do these scumbags you refer to rise to the level of being "shady, deceptive, and disingenuous"?

G1911 · #6 04-22-2024, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by lorewalker

but do these scumbags you refer to rise to the level of being "shady, deceptive, and disingenuous"?

100%

Leon · #7 04-23-2024, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

For me, the issue isn't what's being done. It's the deception.

And the answer is always the same, "money" or better known as, greed. How many times have we seen it in the hobby?

This hobby has all of the right conditions for fraud to be rampant.
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Peter_Spaeth · #8 04-23-2024, 08:55 PM

Yep. The unholy alliance of card doctors, TPGs and AHs. Perfect storm.

Lorewalker · #9 04-23-2024, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yep. The unholy alliance of card doctors, TPGs and AHs. Perfect storm.

The trifecta of shady, deceptive, and disingenuous.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #10 04-23-2024, 09:11 PM

There's also a healthy dose of hypocrisy that abounds (unless everyone here collects and trades exclusively in raw cards). Hmm, I'm not hearing the sound of a single slab bening cracked. Surprise, surprise.

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