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Old 05-13-2024, 02:20 PM
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On a positive note…. I will say, when I win items of value from Memory Lane, it comes in a very nice ML box, and on my birthday they send a card with a couple pieces of candy. So, they do acknowledge their customers and do the little things right.
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On a positive note…. I will say, when I win items of value from Memory Lane, it comes in a very nice ML box, and on my birthday they send a card with a couple pieces of candy. So, they do acknowledge their customers and do the little things right.
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As a along time lurker around here, I love this type of thread
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Would anyone have concerns if ML did the exact opposite? Scenario:

Immediately after the theft, ML informs the consignors about the stolen cards and removes those cards from the auctions. Auction runs without the cards.

If that happened, would we still have a 600 comment post on net 55?
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Would anyone have concerns if ML did the exact opposite? Scenario:

Immediately after the theft, ML informs the consignors about the stolen cards and removes those cards from the auctions. Auction runs without the cards.

If that happened, would we still have a 600 comment post on net 55?
Yes as no matter what they done it would have been wrong for a few and news to the rest of us.
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Old 05-13-2024, 08:51 PM
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Would anyone have concerns if ML did the exact opposite? Scenario:

Immediately after the theft, ML informs the consignors about the stolen cards and removes those cards from the auctions. Auction runs without the cards.

If that happened, would we still have a 600 comment post on net 55?
I think there are 3 people left reading this but that is an interesting question. I think it was posed early on but I think the usual and customary thing we see is that when a house has an issue with a lot (whatever the reason) while the auction is going on, they pull the lot. For whatever reason the house decided the lot cannot be sold, shipped, etc. I have seen this with larger auctions where 3 or 4 lots are pulled.

54 key lots is a big deal. It would not be a forgone conclusion the remaining lots would have done better because those bidding on the 54 stolen lots may have had zero interest in other lots in the auction. Also you might have lost bidders too because those 54 lots were drawing people into the auction but that in and of itself is not a reason to let the auction go on with the missing lots.

Generally speaking I think we all prefer to be bidding on things we are relying on the house to have and be able to ship. It is why when we get something from an auction where the image and/or the description do not agree with the item once in hand, we are disappointed.

As has been said over and over this was a no win situation for the company once they shipped the cards to nobody in the middle of nowhere.
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Would anyone have concerns if ML did the exact opposite? Scenario:

Immediately after the theft, ML informs the consignors about the stolen cards and removes those cards from the auctions. Auction runs without the cards.

If that happened, would we still have a 600 comment post on net 55?
I think few, if any, people would've had an issue with that.

Nobody would say, "Wait! They should've deceived all their bidders so they could see what people would've been willing to pay, for purposes of filing their insurance claim."
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There'd probably be a split, one could credibly argue that removing 54 of the best cards would lose some bidders interest and could be bad for consigners, just as one can credibly argue that smaller consigners may have lost some bids by people budgeting for the bigger cards that were not actually for sale.

When people argue from the outcome that is most beneficial to them instead of what makes sense or is honest, there will always be a split because somebody doesn't do as well in each scenario.

The difference, of course, is that the other path is actually honest and the path taken of hosting a fraudulent auction (still waiting for the lawsuit) is blatantly dishonest. I have learned from this board that dishonesty that is beneficial to certain people is a good thing though and the truth should not ever intrude and the common sense 'being honest is the right path' is a silly absurdity and I am stupid for wondering how Memory Lane acquired this bizarrely unique insurance plan that requires hosting of said fraudulent auction.
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I think few, if any, people would've had an issue with that.

Nobody would say, "Wait! They should've deceived all their bidders so they could see what people would've been willing to pay, for purposes of filing their insurance claim."
As a consignor, even if I didn't have one of the 54 stolen lots, I'd be pissed. It would leave a massive negative impression on the entire auction. I've said it before I think pulling that many key lots actually HURTS the remaining lots.
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Would anyone have concerns if ML did the exact opposite? Scenario:

Immediately after the theft, ML informs the consignors about the stolen cards and removes those cards from the auctions. Auction runs without the cards.

If that happened, would we still have a 600 comment post on net 55?
There'd be a groundswell of support for the AH and the consignors who were victims of a crime, and the thread would have died about 100-odd expressions of support into it. Instead, we have a polarizing, endless debate essentially over whether two wrongs make a right.

Of course, that would be on "net 55". On Net 54 it would pretty much turn into a dumpster fire regardless.
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Would anyone have concerns if ML did the exact opposite? Scenario:

Immediately after the theft, ML informs the consignors about the stolen cards and removes those cards from the auctions. Auction runs without the cards.

If that happened, would we still have a 600 comment post on net 55?
That’s exactly what they should have done, Bottom Line…you nailed it.
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That’s exactly what they should have done, Bottom Line…you nailed it.
Thank you, I'm sure their legal team may or may not agree.

Which is truly the bottom line...for them.

Regardless of the opinions of the Supreme Court of message boards.
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That’s exactly what they should have done, Bottom Line…you nailed it.
As soon as ya'll run a major auction company, you can do whatever it is you like. It's so easy.
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