Harrison Butker graduation speech

[Peter_Spaeth]

So normal people think a woman's place is in the home? I'm far from woke or left wing, but come on, man.

[Peter_Spaeth]

And there was this.

• In a swipe at LGBTQ communities, Butker encouraged graduates to have Catholic pride, but “not the deadly sin sort of pride that has an entire month dedicated to it.”

Normal folks with normal values.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

And there was this.

• In a swipe at LGBTQ communities, Butker encouraged graduates to have Catholic pride, but “not the deadly sin sort of pride that has an entire month dedicated to it.”

Normal folks with normal values.

I'll defer to Morgan Freeman on that one.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtY...IG1pbnV0ZXM%3D

[bk400]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

I'll defer to Morgan Freeman on that one.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GeixtY...IG1pbnV0ZXM%3D

Well, I have to agree with Morgan Freeman's underlying point: We Americans need to celebrate the traits and values that unite us, rather than those that divide us.

This said, I'm not sure that's what Butker was aiming for in his speech.

[Carter08]

Christian men have had it so rough in this country they need a Chiefs kicker to give a speech supporting them? Pretty funny really.

[Belfast1933]

Originally Posted by Carter08

Christian men have had it so rough in this country they need a Chiefs kicker to give a speech supporting them? Pretty funny really.

You really think so? Serious question... there is no doubt in my mind (white guy, late 50's, raised protestant) that I have had every possible advantage in this country relative to any other segment of our society.

[Carter08]

Originally Posted by Belfast1933

You really think so? Serious question... there is no doubt in my mind (white guy, late 50's, raised protestant) that I have had every possible advantage in this country relative to any other segment of our society.

We’re on the same page - I was making fun of giving such a speech. And what a dumb time and place to do it. Women out there, congrats on working hard for your degrees and all but now let me say this….

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So normal people think a woman's place is in the home? I'm far from woke or left wing, but come on, man.

There's many people, both men and women who desire a lifestyle where the man provides and the woman raises children in a functional two parent household surrounded by love and respect. Just look around at the current dysfunction that our children are being raised in and tell me this might be a better option for kids. And even if you disagree at least respect the men and women who have made their decision to raid their family this way.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

There's many people, both men and women who desire a lifestyle where the man provides and the woman raises children in a functional two parent household surrounded by love and respect. Just look around at the current dysfunction that our children are being raised in and tell me this might be a better option for kids. And even if you disagree at least respect the men and women who have made their decision to raid their family this way.

Of course, and I completely respect and approve of that choice. I don't, however, accept that that's the only choice that's "normal." I would leave that word completely out of the discussion.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Of course, and I completely respect and approve of that choice. I don't, however, accept that that's the only choice that's "normal." I would leave that word completely out of the discussion.

Fair enough, I'll replace normal with optimal.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Casey2296

Fair enough, I'll replace normal with optimal.

Needless to say I wouldn't frame it that way either, but we can agree to disagree. Just different choices people have a right to make.

[packs]

Someone coming to a mutual decision with their spouse to enter into a household with traditional gender roles is one thing, someone suggesting it's the right way to live or the only way to live is out there, in my opinion. Even on the most practical level, everyone isn't a professional athlete and many households require two incomes to makes ends meet.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

Someone coming to a mutual decision with their spouse to enter into a household with traditional gender roles is one thing, someone suggesting it's the right way to live or the only way to live is out there, in my opinion. Even on the most practical level, everyone isn't a professional athlete and many households require two incomes to makes ends meet.

Not to mention that every household is not a heterosexual couple,