Harrison Butker graduation speech

[JustinD]

I am not taking a side here people as everyone is allowed their own beliefs and chosen path in life. I am only wondering if anyone actually read the transcript of the speech?

It certainly isn't perfect but it fit the audience and the text really seems vastly different than the media portrayal on this one. I am not much of a religious man but was raised Catholic and there is nothing here outside the box of what I heard in sermons growing up on Sunday. (Perhaps the brow beatings are a bit why I am not very religious, but I have come to not care what other people choose to do in my old age)

As for this being some vastly sexist speech as I have been told for days now...well after seeing the text, other than one awkwardly phrased sentence the rest seems somewhat dedicated to how he is only able to succeed due to the effort and sacrifice of his wife.

I am using this source FYI as it really is the only one I saw on google that was not honestly filled with the additional personal opinions of the writer...it's simply just a transcript. (I figured I would address that as I am sure someone will comment on the site)

https://www.ncregister.com/news/harr...at-benedictine

[Peter_Spaeth]

This was quoted accurately.

Not the deadly sin sort of pride that has an entire month dedicated to it,

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

This was quoted accurately.

Not the deadly sin sort of pride that has an entire month dedicated to it,

Yes, that is. But again, it's the stand of much of the Catholic Church prior to the current Pope. It's not just him on a soapbox in Central Park, it's addressing a specific group.

Also, this track of thought is not my bag...it's why I chose my own path of belief. I just thought it a bit strange that the reaction is pointed as though he said it on the Tonight Show and not a extremely strict Catholic University.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by JustinD

Yes, that is. But again, it's the stand of much of the Catholic Church prior to the current Pope. It's not just him on a soapbox in Central Park, it's addressing a specific group.

Also, this track of thought is not my bag...it's why I chose my own path of belief. I just thought it a bit strange that the reaction is pointed as though he said it on the Tonight Show and not a extremely strict Catholic University.

Why does the audience make it any better? Would preaching racist filth to an audience of KKK members make it less pernicious? To me, it's a man with some stature in the community due to his athletic accomplishments making an anti-gay remark. Period.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why does the audience make it any better? Would preaching racist filth to an audience of KKK members make it less pernicious? To me, it's a man with some stature in the community due to his athletic accomplishments making an anti-gay remark. Period.

I am not defending his statements I don't believe in, only his right to say them.

There has been a lot going on it the past 8 months of people yelling horrifically awful things against others they have no idea about and attacking them in ways that infuriate me. I would like it to not happen but the solution to making that happen could be far worse in the long run than verbal altercations.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Sure, he can say whatever he wants, but so can his critics.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Sure, he can say whatever he wants, but so can his critics.

Completely fair and that would be the appropriate response.

[Casey2296]

Originally Posted by JustinD

I am not taking a side here people as everyone is allowed their own beliefs and chosen path in life. I am only wondering if anyone actually read the transcript of the speech?

It certainly isn't perfect but it fit the audience and the text really seems vastly different than the media portrayal on this one. I am not much of a religious man but was raised Catholic and there is nothing here outside the box of what I heard in sermons growing up on Sunday. (Perhaps the brow beatings are a bit why I am not very religious, but I have come to not care what other people choose to do in my old age)

As for this being some vastly sexist speech as I have been told for days now...well after seeing the text, other than one awkwardly phrased sentence the rest seems somewhat dedicated to how he is only able to succeed due to the effort and sacrifice of his wife.

I am using this source FYI as it really is the only one I saw on google that was not honestly filled with the additional personal opinions of the writer...it's simply just a transcript. (I figured I would address that as I am sure someone will comment on the site)

https://www.ncregister.com/news/harr...at-benedictine

+1 well said. I'm probably a little too emotional on this subject and appreciate your balanced view.