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Old 05-18-2024, 09:08 AM
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Just curious why the memorabilia section can't be used? Photos are memorabilia. Also, you might consider being here at least 1 month, on a 23 yrs old forum, before you suggest changes.

So if we make another section, for the millionth time, we will get a post every other day. Great.

Steve- definitely not true. How about we make a dedicated photo section, and when it's dead, you can say I told you so? Seriously, we just had 2 new sections everyone seemed to want concerning game used. They were put out here and approximately 2 people responded in several days to a week. Is that good?
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It doesn't matter if I've been here for 1 day or 10 years. This should be a place where people can make harmless suggestions to try and better this forum. The hobby is ALWAYS evolving and there is NOTHING wrong with trying to improve something. You sound like you're almost threatened by change. I was simply asking a question and my question was very legitimate considering the growing popularity of photo collecting. Don't be stuck in the past man.
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Old 05-18-2024, 10:43 PM
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It doesn't matter if I've been here for 1 day or 10 years. This should be a place where people can make harmless suggestions to try and better this forum. The hobby is ALWAYS evolving and there is NOTHING wrong with trying to improve something. You sound like you're almost threatened by change. I was simply asking a question and my question was very legitimate considering the growing popularity of photo collecting. Don't be stuck in the past man.
Welcome to Net54 Fandom, my name is Doug, and I'm occasionally grumpy in an old man shouting at the clouds kind of way, which is kind of funny because I've been that way since well before I was an old man. Unless younger than 10 is considered old.

You're right it doesn't matter how long you have been here before you can make suggestions, but it's bad form at the very least to walk into somebody's house and ask if they have ever thought about rearranging the furniture, then being offended when they say they like it they way it is.

There are photo threads in the memorabilia section, just as there are pin threads and pennant threads, one of the pennant threads is approaching TWO MILLION views, yet neither pins not pennants have their own section.

We could have separate sections for every individual thing that we collect, but most of us think things work pretty well as they are, and occasionally changes are made.

You sound more threatened by the past than Leon is stuck in it, if searching the forum for your interests is too complicated for you, then take a deep breath, relax, and dive in, I'm confident that you will enjoy your time here.

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PS - that Aaron ball is pretty cool, but I will need more convincing that Guy Morton was only in camp (and happened to play) for one day. I'm not saying it didn't happen that way, I'm just saying I need more info. Either way it's a neat ball.

PPS - there are people on here who have been researching specific thing for years if not decades, so while I appreciate the time and effort you put into researching that ball, two weeks isn't a time frame that I would acknowledge as "relentless".

PPS - welcome again, and I look forward to seeing more of your finds and conversing about the stuff that interests all of us.

PPPS - please don't take my attempts at constructive criticism the wrong way, I tend to be pretty blunt with my thoughts, while meaning no ill will (unless you're a Giants fan, hahahaha. (Sorry Rob, I had to go there)

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And as long as we're talking about photos, here is one that I like. I mentioned Hank Aaron in my previous post, but none of my Aaron stuff is a photo, so here's a Braves pic in honor of Mr. Aaron.
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And as long as we're talking about photos, here is one that I like. I mentioned Hank Aaron in my previous post, but none of my Aaron stuff is a photo, so here's a Braves pic in honor of Mr. Aaron.
I think a separate photo page would be great, but I get Leon’s point about creating sub headings, etc.

Judging by the number of photo related posts on the main page, photos are a lot more popular these days than pennants and some other stuff.

The primary issue I see, and it’s been discussed before many times, is that 75% of everything seems to end up on the first page. And I’m as guilty of that as anyone. It’s just easier and that’s where the eyeballs go. No one wants to post something on a page that doesn’t get the foot traffic.

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Welcome to Net54 Fandom, my name is Doug, and I'm occasionally grumpy in an old man shouting at the clouds kind of way, which is kind of funny because I've been that way since well before I was an old man. Unless younger than 10 is considered old.

You're right it doesn't matter how long you have been here before you can make suggestions, but it's bad form at the very least to walk into somebody's house and ask if they have ever thought about rearranging the furniture, then being offended when they say they like it they way it is.

There are photo threads in the memorabilia section, just as there are pin threads and pennant threads, one of the pennant threads is approaching TWO MILLION views, yet neither pins not pennants have their own section.

We could have separate sections for every individual thing that we collect, but most of us think things work pretty well as they are, and occasionally changes are made.

You sound more threatened by the past than Leon is stuck in it, if searching the forum for your interests is too complicated for you, then take a deep breath, relax, and dive in, I'm confident that you will enjoy your time here.

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PS - that Aaron ball is pretty cool, but I will need more convincing that Guy Morton was only in camp (and happened to play) for one day. I'm not saying it didn't happen that way, I'm just saying I need more info. Either way it's a neat ball.

PPS - there are people on here who have been researching specific thing for years if not decades, so while I appreciate the time and effort you put into researching that ball, two weeks isn't a time frame that I would acknowledge as "relentless".

PPS - welcome again, and I look forward to seeing more of your finds and conversing about the stuff that interests all of us.

PPPS - please don't take my attempts at constructive criticism the wrong way, I tend to be pretty blunt with my thoughts, while meaning no ill will (unless you're a Giants fan, hahahaha. (Sorry Rob, I had to go there)

Hi Doug appreciate your response and I can see your point. Thanks for the welcome and I hope to gain alot more knowledge on here and see all the cool things people collect.

About the Braves/Red Sox ball. I was able to pull up articles/rosters on all the spring training games that the Braves faced the Red Sox. There was only 1 game in Florida (March 10th) where Ben Flowers and Guy Morton were on the roster and played in the game. Both were quickly sent down to the minors. Guy Morton, who was invited by the red sox to sprint training in Florida, confirmed by his daughter never went to any other cities with the red sox as he had a ankle injury and was sent down to the minors in North Carolina until September when the red sox called him back up. He played 1 single game for the red sox and his career was over in the majors.
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Doug- Amazingly I was able to find newspaper dated March 25th 1954 that talks about Guy Morton being sent to the minors. Which was 15 days after Hank's first start. The Braves didn't play the Red sox again until early April and none of those games were in Florida so Guy Morton wouldn't of been there. He was the key to dating the ball. Along with the Ben flowers.

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Good work. Looks fairly conclusive, and I would tend to agree with your conclusion, but I'm curious if there were other days the teams crossed paths, the playing in the game part isn't relevant, it's all about being in camp (which doesn't necessarily mean being printed on the roster or playing in the game).

With no disrespect meant towards the daughter of Mr. Morton, her opinion on the happenings years before her birth are not something I put much weight on.

When asked about wearing different numbers during his career, Stan Musial himself had no memory of ever wearing anything other than #6, yet there is documented evidence of him wearing #19.

https://thecardinalnation.com/now-ba...tanley-musial/


Unrelated to your quest, I just realized that Guy and Stan both played their ML debut games on Sept 17, which is kind of weird, but not completely since I would guess that a large percentage of debut games happen in September.

Also, did you know that Guy Morton's father Guy Sr. played 11 years for the Indians?

Last in the dumb trivia department : your Guy Morton, also know as "Moose", was according to his Retrosheet stats 1/2 an inch shorter than I am, while being 5 pounds heavier. I have NEVER been referred to as "Moose" so if I want to be, I guess I need to gain those extra pounds.

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Hey Doug! That's funny. I would hate to have a nickname "moose". I'd always feel like I needed to wear a antler hat and crawl around on all fours.

So Guy's daughter got all this information from her mother (guys widow) who is still alive surprisingly. The only time the red sox and braves crossed paths was during spring training/exhibition games. But the games after March 10th that the red sox and braves would've played against eachother did not have "moose" . He was playing in North Carolina in the minors and wouldn't of played with the red sox until September when he was called back up. And the fact that the ball is PSA certified as a braves/Red Sox Spring Training Signed ball is pretty cool. Moose was only in Florida until March 25th and the Braves were busy playing other teams on the road then. I have alot of articles from 1954 to back up my research. I looked through tons of articles and rosters and March 10th was the only game Ben flowers was pitching against Hank (who's name is on the ball) and the only game Guy was catching during that exact game which Guy's daughter and widow confirmed he was playing that game that Hank hit his first homerun (have emails from his daughter)
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It doesn't matter if I've been here for 1 day or 10 years. This should be a place where people can make harmless suggestions to try and better this forum. The hobby is ALWAYS evolving and there is NOTHING wrong with trying to improve something. You sound like you're almost threatened by change. I was simply asking a question and my question was very legitimate considering the growing popularity of photo collecting. Don't be stuck in the past man.
Agree! WTF does the length of time being a member have to do with anything? After a "month" you magically become a genius? LMAO, any egos around here?
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Lol...I think Leon got PTSD when I mentioned something new.
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Lol...I think Leon got PTSD when I mentioned something new.
We try new things quite often. A seperate photo section just isn't needed. Lets see about 5+ new photo threads a day, in the memorabilia section, and from mostly different members, and we can go from there on making a new section. How about that?

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We try new things quite often. A seperate photo section just isn't needed. Lets see about 5+ new photo threads a day, in the memorabilia section, and from mostly different members, and we can go from there on making a new section. How about that?

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Do we need a photo section?

I refer you both to post #7 in this thread for my thoughts on the subject but, just to make it easier, here is my main point (again) :
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This is Leon's house, he finds it comfortable the way it is arranged, but he has still rearranged things to accommodate requests on occasion, even when some of those requests have not been particularly successful (i.e. game used).

If this thread had hundreds (maybe even dozens) of responses saying "YES! we need a photo section" I'm confident that Leon would consider it.

But sadly (for those hoping for a tidal wave of photo section support), this thread has only 39 responses and 28 of them aren't in regards to your original question, they are about your Aaron ball.

Not including Leon's comment, there are six people who have responded to your thread and three of those only responded in regards to the ball.

Of the three of us who replied to your post asking why there isn't a photo thread, Snapolit1 thinks it's a good idea, BigFoot is concerned about the ability to rearrange furniture but didn't comment on the topic, and I'm not opposed to a photo section, but wouldn't vote in favor if I was asked.

So, it seems to me that the general consensus of the entire Net54 community, from those who have less than 10 posts to those who have multiple thousands of posts is, drum roll please....

"Eh"
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Would selfishly LOVE a photo section, think it would help increase the number of posts about photos, I know I would post more.

That said, I don't know all the time and effort it would take to implement and trust Leon to run the board as he sees fit.

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Epic Photo Jeff... The perfect one to celebrate the day!

Sure, a separate Photo Section would be cool. But some of the most popular threads are already devoted to certain segments under the "Memorabilia Umbrella"...

The "Hey Pennant Guys" thread is the longest running of any on Net54, now approaching 2 Million views and exceeding 8,500 responses.

The "Anyone Collect Pins" thread is another monster, approaching 580,000 views and over 1,700 replies.

Then there's the "Ticket Collectors" thread with 532,000 views and nearly 1,100 responses.

So these popular segments do not need to be on the main page, or have their own separate section in order to thrive. Let's defer to Leon, as he has the "trial & error" experience to know what's best for the forum... not to mention he literally owns it!
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I refer you both to post #7 in this thread for my thoughts on the subject but, just to make it easier, here is my main point (again) :


This is Leon's house, he finds it comfortable the way it is arranged, but he has still rearranged things to accommodate requests on occasion, even when some of those requests have not been particularly successful (i.e. game used).

If this thread had hundreds (maybe even dozens) of responses saying "YES! we need a photo section" I'm confident that Leon would consider it.

But sadly (for those hoping for a tidal wave of photo section support), this thread has only 39 responses and 28 of them aren't in regards to your original question, they are about your Aaron ball.

Not including Leon's comment, there are six people who have responded to your thread and three of those only responded in regards to the ball.

Of the three of us who replied to your post asking why there isn't a photo thread, Snapolit1 thinks it's a good idea, BigFoot is concerned about the ability to rearrange furniture but didn't comment on the topic, and I'm not opposed to a photo section, but wouldn't vote in favor if I was asked.

So, it seems to me that the general consensus of the entire Net54 community, from those who have less than 10 posts to those who have multiple thousands of posts is, drum roll please....

"Eh"
Doug no disrespect but you really didn't need to come to Leon's rescue on this one. Houses need to be updated over time to keep things fresh and new. Times have changed since this forum has started I'm sure. It sounds like being stuck in the past is the theme around here. That's too bad. I'm 100% confident if there was a photo section it would gain alot of attention but it sounds like you and Leon are afraid to try something new. If it doesn't gain traction over time then remove it. But I've seen ALOT of posts from people sharing their photos and a section dedicated would hurt how???? Why wouldn't you try something new? I don't get it. Nothing wrong with being old school but you need to recognize that houses need renovation at times. Furniture gets outdated and needs replacement at times. There's a whole new generation of people getting into collecting. Photo collecting has increased exponentially. Would trying it hurt that much or are you that stuck in your ways that change bothers you?

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Also Doug I may be new to this forum but I have alot of knowledge and time in this hobby. I'm not speaking like I'm some 18yr old kid who is talking outta my a**. Try something new man. Don't be that guy who is threatened by change. This hobby is evolving everyday and photo collecting is HUGE. Maybe it would draw more future collectors to this forum
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But yet there's a section for basketball, cricket and tennis cards? I'd love to compare the number of cricket card Collectors to those who collect sports photography...make it make sense. If sports photography is under Memorabilia then why is their a separate section for basketball cards? Why wouldn't there just be a cards section and you could post any cards in there? You have cards all separated into different sections. Why not do that with memorabilia too?

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Doug no disrespect but you really didn't need to come to Leon's rescue on this one. Houses need to be updated over time to keep things fresh and new. Times have changed since this forum has started I'm sure. It sounds like being stuck in the past is the theme around here. That's too bad. I'm 100% confident if there was a photo section it would gain alot of attention but it sounds like you and Leon are afraid to try something new. If it doesn't gain traction over time then remove it. But I've seen ALOT of posts from people sharing their photos and a section dedicated would hurt how???? Why wouldn't you try something new? I don't get it. Nothing wrong with being old school but you need to recognize that houses need renovation at times. Furniture gets outdated and needs replacement at times. There's a whole new generation of people getting into collecting. Photo collecting has increased exponentially. Would trying it hurt that much or are you that stuck in your ways that change bothers you?
Bingo!!! I really never thought about collecting Type 1's until about three weeks ago. I collect Jackie Robinson, now looking at some of his pics.
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Bingo!!! I really never thought about collecting Type 1's until about three weeks ago. I collect Jackie Robinson, now looking at some of his pics.
Look it's the other guy who has spent his entire time on this site bitching about it...
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Bingo!!! I really never thought about collecting Type 1's until about three weeks ago. I collect Jackie Robinson, now looking at some of his pics.
Lol...these guys act like I just asked if I could date their daughters or something. I'm just asking a legitimate question. They act like their isn't enough interest. I get that there is a memorabilia section but yet they can have 20 separate sections for cards. Sounds very biased to me.
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