Paul Skenes Superfractor Ends in Goldin

YankeeCollector · #1 07-18-2024, 07:56 PM

Skenes superfractor owner is prob laughing all the way to the bank.
He can mostly likely get $250-300k right now for that card. He should definitely sell.

Carter08 · #2 07-18-2024, 08:10 PM

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Skenes superfractor owner is prob laughing all the way to the bank.
He can mostly likely get $250-300k right now for that card. He should definitely sell.

Guy is on fire.

Lucas00 · #3 07-18-2024, 08:19 PM

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Skenes superfractor owner is prob laughing all the way to the bank.
He can mostly likely get $250-300k right now for that card. He should definitely sell.

I'd do it fast before his elbow explodes and he doesn't step onto a major league field for a year.

Carter08 · #4 07-18-2024, 08:55 PM

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I'd do it fast before his elbow explodes and he doesn't step onto a major league field for a year.

Hopefully that doesn�t happen. Hope you would agree. He�s great for baseball.

Lucas00 · #5 07-18-2024, 08:59 PM

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Hopefully that doesn�t happen. Hope you would agree. He�s great for baseball.

Of course I hope it doesn�t happen. But how long can you throw 100mph for as a starter before it does? It feels inevitable to me.

Carter08 · #6 07-18-2024, 09:02 PM

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Of course I hope it doesn�t happen. But how long can you throw 100mph for as a starter before it does? It feels inevitable to me.

I�m not a doctor but I play one on television. Just kidding. I do echo others that think he looks pretty effortless in the way he throws, and his pre-game stretching and workouts are getting a lot of press. Hopefully he�s an exception.

maniac_73 · #7 07-18-2024, 11:07 PM

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Of course I hope it doesn�t happen. But how long can you throw 100mph for as a starter before it does? It feels inevitable to me.

Verlander did a pretty good job adjusting when he couldn't throw 100 anymore. Velocity was calculated differently back in the day but Nolan RYan threw 100 consistently as a starter. I think throwing mechanics and luck are more of a factor in injury than how fast someone throws.

Lucas00 · #8 07-18-2024, 11:51 PM

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Verlander did a pretty good job adjusting when he couldn't throw 100 anymore. Velocity was calculated differently back in the day but Nolan RYan threw 100 consistently as a starter. I think throwing mechanics and luck are more of a factor in injury than how fast someone throws.

And I hope Paul is one of these outliers as well. Like Nolan and Randy. But I think Statistically it's too dicey to take a several hundred thousand dollar risk (talking about the card). Then again like people always say, if you have that much to spend on a single card you probably don't care that much or can take a loss without much care. What I hope, the buyer is a collector and fan of Paul, and will never sell it.

maniac_73 · #9 07-19-2024, 12:47 AM

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And I hope Paul is one of these outliers as well. Like Nolan and Randy. But I think Statistically it's too dicey to take a several hundred thousand dollar risk (talking about the card). Then again like people always say, if you have that much to spend on a single card you probably don't care that much or can take a loss without much care. What I hope, the buyer is a collector and fan of Paul, and will never sell it.

Forgot about the big unit! I agree though that speculating a few hundred grand on a rookie is insanity!

Snowman · #10 07-21-2024, 12:48 PM

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Of course I hope it doesn�t happen. But how long can you throw 100mph for as a starter before it does? It feels inevitable to me.

Haven't you heard though? Walter Johnson was throwing 105 for 200 pitches per night, every other night, for twenty years.

Lucas00 · #11 07-21-2024, 02:47 PM

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Haven't you heard though? Walter Johnson was throwing 105 for 200 pitches per night, every other night, for twenty years.

Obviously satire. But the generational Great longevity pitchers exist. Walter, Christy, Sandy, Spahn, Nolan, Johnson, etc. It is possible.

I love the argument of people saying Walter Johnson threw something like 80mph. It's hilarious. Every human male in the United States wanted to be a baseball player, most of them played on town and factory teams. To think throwing 90+ is impossible for the time is laughable. Sure the majority were probably only slinging in the 80s max. But the outliers are obvious, and the player accounts are incredibly numerous of what Walter and Joe Wood did. (Joe probably blew out his arm as one of the earliest examples of what throwing really hard does to the arm). Walter did not throw close to 100. That's a fact, I'd say maybe 95 could've been Walters fastest pitch ever.

There is a common factor to this longevity though. Tall pitchers with long sweeping, very elastic deliveries (barring Nolan, I have zero clue how he pitched so long like that). Is it a coincidence, maybe. But Paul is tall and his delivery is a bit like the sweep of a right handed Randy Johnson.

We shall see.

Exhibitman · #12 07-21-2024, 03:21 PM

Nolan worked his ass off in the gym. That documentary on him went into it in some detail.

samosa4u · #13 07-19-2024, 01:28 PM

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I'd do it fast before his elbow explodes and he doesn't step onto a major league field for a year.

Yep, his elbow explodes and then Olivia Dunne dumps him for somebody else. That'll be like shooting him twice and he might not recover from it.

ZachS · #14 07-19-2024, 08:17 PM

Lots of haters in here. Skenes will be one of the most dominant pitchers to ever play by the end of his career. I've watched him pitch many times (LSU baseball season tickets) and he makes it look completely effortless.

Plus, he's a good guy. Wore #20 at LSU to honor one of his former AF teammates who was killed in a training accident. He also is involved in veterans charities like Folds of Honor. I look forward to watching him dominate MLB for the next several years.

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