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Old 08-26-2024, 11:40 PM
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Ohtani is amazing but before anyone starts comparing him to Ruth or waxes too poetic about his place in the pantheon, keep in mind his batting WAR is 26 and his pitching WAR is 15 for a total of 41.

Judge's WAR, just hitting, is over 50.

Deep breath. He has a long ways to go yet.
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Old 08-27-2024, 12:07 AM
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Well, I'm not convinced that aggregating Ohtani's hitting and pitching WAR to date is the best way to evaluate his place in modern baseball history.

Ohtani is analogous to a track and field athlete who wins the gold medal in both the 100 meter dash and the javelin in the 2028 Olympics. You only have to do that once to be in the Olympic pantheon.
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Old 08-27-2024, 09:26 AM
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Well, I'm not convinced that aggregating Ohtani's hitting and pitching WAR to date is the best way to evaluate his place in modern baseball history.

Ohtani is analogous to a track and field athlete who wins the gold medal in both the 100 meter dash and the javelin in the 2028 Olympics. You only have to do that once to be in the Olympic pantheon.
I agree it's amazing, but isn't the ultimate question in baseball, what's his value?
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Disclaimer: I am not interested no back-and-forth cause I not that smart ,
But off the field there’s jersey sales , ticket sales , television viewership , luxury boxes etc .
.. Admittedly I don’t watch Dodgers games because of Ohtani I just to see Mike Schildt and the Padres beat them
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Ohtani is the largest presence in the two largest baseball markets in the world. I don't see how anyone could question why it's valuable for a franchise to have that player on their team.
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Ohtani is the largest presence in the two largest baseball markets in the world. I don't see how anyone could question why it's valuable for a franchise to have that player on their team.
Sure, but franchise economics and baseball are two different things and I thought we were discussing baseball.
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I thought that what's you meant by his value. He's about to win his third MVP. I didn't think his value on the field was in question.
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Ohtani is amazing but before anyone starts comparing him to Ruth or waxes too poetic about his place in the pantheon, keep in mind his batting WAR is 26 and his pitching WAR is 15 for a total of 41.

Judge's WAR, just hitting, is over 50.

Deep breath. He has a long ways to go yet.
Ohtanis value to a franchise is worth more than the sum of the parts.
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Ohtanis value to a franchise is worth more than the sum of the parts.
Why? Surely it isn't because he creates one extra roster spot. How much value does the last player on a team add?
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