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Old 09-02-2024, 11:09 AM
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I have a variant of every checklist except for # 1. Anyone have two versions of # 1 ?
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Old 09-02-2024, 11:23 AM
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I have a whole bunch of recurring print defects for this set. Many are just registration issues but many are not. The Pizzaro is one example...variations and print defects both

If you have time ( and it takes some time but worth the effort if you collect varants) you will find several 72 variants in this long ongoing variations thread here

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=187722
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Old 09-02-2024, 11:27 AM
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I have a variant of every checklist except for # 1. Anyone have two versions of # 1 ?
As far as I know, and I've done all research I knew how to build my master set, there are no variations in checklist 1.

If anyone knows of any, would be interested to hear.
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Old 09-02-2024, 11:42 AM
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What do you use for your master checklist... PSA master, SCD, Beckett, or your own developed list ?
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Old 09-02-2024, 12:05 PM
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It's a combination of all of the above, plus TCDB and https://baseballcardvariationsguideb...wordpress.com/
for the most part. Also these boards.

I think I define 'master' differently than some. I only include variations which result from human error - misspelled words, incorrect layouts, "traded" lines, things like that. So, Washington, Nat'l League and the Cubs that started this thread? Yes. I don't include accidents from the printing process itself - so, no Frank Thomas NNOF, 1967 Spiezios or Schaals, etc. I'd be chasing fish eyes and other detritus forever.

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Old 09-02-2024, 01:05 PM
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Do you include in your master all variations listed by one of the above sources or do you limit what they may list by your own definition ? Just curious. I tend to view variations as cards intentionally changed by the manufaturer ( not always easy to tell when a change was intentional), but I collect both variations and recurring print defects ( variants) with my sets. Many recurring print defects have been given the status of "variations" by the Hobby but the process in recent times ( post SCD Catalog) is chaotic at best .

Would be happy to participate in listing in this thread any variations or varants folks have for the 72 set...or not

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Old 09-02-2024, 01:35 PM
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Do you include in your master all variations listed by one of the above sources or do you limit what they may list by your own definition ? Just curious. I tend to view variations as cards intentionally changed by the manufaturer ( not lways easy to tell when a change was intentional), but I collect both variations and recurring print defects ( variants) with my sets. Many recurring print defects have been given the status of "variations" by the Hobby but the process in recent times ( post SCD Catalog) is chaotic at best .

Would be happy to participate in listing in this thread any variations or varants folks have for the 72 set...or not
Please feel to do so.

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Old 09-02-2024, 03:01 PM
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Going back to the original post, I took a closer look at those series 1 Cubs variations.

There are 12 color combinations in the 1972 set - 2 teams for each.

The Cubs shares its with the Indians.

In all color combo pairs, the lettering and all its facets are identical, but not here. Look at the Indians - the areas under the letters are green. On the "correct" cubs 1st series cards, and all cubs throughout the set, the underside of the letters are yellow, which also matches the color of the thin border around the whole front of the card. Nowhere else does a card's underside coloring match the border. Look at the 1st series Cubs "errors" - the undersides of the S and C are green - this matches with the Indians colorings and contrasts with the border color.

So what is going on? The "error" cards reflect 50% of what the Cubs cards SHOULD look like - green under the letters. The "correct" versions, and all other Cubs in the set are actually in 'error' in that they do not conform to the set's coloring pattern - they are in fact the ONLY team which fails to do so, so this makes it plain they are an aberration.

I think the green ink was accidentally omitted from the U and B on the series 1 Cubs. Someone realized this created an issue, but rather than correct things and add green under the U and B, they erred and made the C and S yellow. Once that occurred, they kept the design yellow through the other 5 series for consistency.

Reasonable?

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I have a variant of every checklist except for # 1. Anyone have two versions of # 1 ?
Sigh,,,

Did not know there was a #1 checklist variation. Can you tell me what it is?

I am reasonably sure you have become the Emeritus DEMI-GOD of variations Al.

Time for you to publish a detailed compendium.

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I have a variant of every checklist except for # 1. Anyone have two versions of # 1 ?
If it’s easy to share, what are the variants for each of the team checklists?
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Old 09-03-2024, 09:30 AM
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If it’s easy to share, what are the variants for each of the team checklists?
https://baseballcardvariationsguideb...wordpress.com/

Go to this link, a great source of info.

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Old 09-03-2024, 01:24 PM
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Kevin--click on this link and type 1972 Topps in the search box. After checking out pics, click on the download for a list of variations. There are many 1972 recurring print defects or anamolies not covered by this site

http://baseballcardvariationsguidebo...wordpress.com/
It definitely helps now that I went back and read for 1972 Topps. Thanks again for passing along.

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https://baseballcardvariationsguideb...wordpress.com/

Go to this link, a great source of info.

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Thank you, Butch. I figured out that Al was referring to the first set checklist, not card #1, which is the Pirates team checklist. I read the link for 72 Topps and had I done so when Al first mentioned it, I would have had a few less questions. ��
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Old 09-05-2024, 05:26 AM
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Are there variations with in the 1972 Topps Cloth Stickers?
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