Which Jackie would you buy?

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Originally Posted by Snowman

That is a very common print mark. It is present on Type 1 Jackies which are cut high enough. The SGC 8 is a Type 1, the PSA 8 is a Type 2.



Ya, I agree. I would pass on both of these copies. That said, the SGC 8 is the far superior card of the two above. I would wait for a centered copy to surface in a lower grade, personally. Although then you'd probably find yourself competing against me if you found one lol.

What's difference between type 1 and type 2? Wasn't aware of the different designations....

[LEHR]

Between the two 8's listed I'd take the SGC. The centering kills it for me on the PSA card even though the registration is a little better on the PSA. Ultimately for the kind of money these will bring I'd probably wait for a better copy to come up.

[Kidnapped18]

SGC is clearly the better copy
PSA example has that printers mark/defect on top of hat and is not centered with slight skew to the right

[JollyElm]

Sadly, with my budget, this is completely out of my milieu, but if you need help choosing the better bargain between a PSA 5 and an SGC 5 1973 Topps Willie Montanez, I am definitely your man!!!!

[babraham]

I'd hold off and wait for a better looking 8 if I was set on an 8.

[Republicaninmass]

Im not OK with the dramatic tilt on the top of the sgc card and not as much at the bottom.

That would irk me until I sold it

That psa 8 looks like an old flip that was cleansed into a new flip.

Hard pass on both here, more so at the precipice of the market IMO

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Im not OK with the dramatic tilt on the top of the sgc card and not as much at the bottom.

That would irk me until I sold it

That psa 8 looks like an old flip that was cleansed into a new flip.

Hard pass on both here, more so at the precipice of the market IMO

That's how the card is printed though lol. All type 1 Jackies have that tilt on the top border. If it doesn't, it's trimmed

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

What's difference between type 1 and type 2? Wasn't aware of the different designations....

There are numerous differences when you examine them closely, but here are a few that make it easy to detect right away, circled in yellow in the images below.

• The top left corner of the image box on a Type 1 is sharper and protrudes out to the left, whereas on the Type 2, it has more of a smooth rounded corner
• The stars on the left edge of the name box has a partial white star at the top of the box in the Type 1s that isn't present on the Type 2s
• The top border black line is more slanted on the Type 1 than on the Type 2
• There is often a small print mark on Type 1s at the bottom right corner in the border, as shown in the SGC 8 in the OP
• There is sometimes a small fisheye near Jackie's hat in the Type 2s that isn't present in the Type 1s (but isn't always present in Type 2s)
• On the back, the threads on the baseball face right in the Type 2s (top image shown below) and they face left in the Type 1s
• The right edge of the text box alignment extends further to the right on Type 1s than it does on Type 2s

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Originally Posted by Snowman

There are numerous differences when you examine them closely, but here are a few that make it easy to detect right away, circled in yellow in the images below.

• The top left corner of the image box on a Type 1 is sharper and protrudes out to the left, whereas on the Type 2, it has more of a smooth rounded corner
• The stars on the left edge of the name box has a partial white star at the top of the box in the Type 1s that isn't present on the Type 2s
• The top border black line is more slanted on the Type 1 than on the Type 2
• There is often a small print mark on Type 1s at the bottom right corner in the border, as shown in the SGC 8 in the OP
• There is sometimes a small fisheye near Jackie's hat in the Type 2s that isn't present in the Type 1s (but isn't always present in Type 2s)
• On the back, the threads on the baseball face right in the Type 2s (top image shown below) and they face left in the Type 1s
• The right edge of the text box alignment extends further to the right on Type 1s than it does on Type 2s

Thanks for all the info and laid out so nicely! Very informative. What version is the more desirable?

[ClementeFanOh]

AJ- I'd go with the SGC by a hair. Amazing the number of folks who reply
while ignoring your direct question. You can lead a horse to water...

Trent King

[Rhotchkiss]

SGC crushes in my opinion

That said, I don’t like the picture tilt for that grade, and as others stated, I would pass and wait for a better centered one, especially in an 8

[bk400]

Sgc

[The Detroit Collector]

Put me in with a vote for SGC

[Snowman]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

Thanks for all the info and laid out so nicely! Very informative. What version is the more desirable?

I have a very slight preference for the type 2, but the market values them equivalently and I'd never pass on a type 1 that fits my centering and condition criteria

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan

What's difference between type 1 and type 2? Wasn't aware of the different designations....

Yes it's like the Mantle, which was double printed with slight differences between the versions.