Which card do you prefer?

[ruth-gehrig]

Again, and maybe I'm wrong, but on the PSA holder I see no designed area in the holder that is supposed to keep the card secure. Am I missing something?
I don't see how knocking it back into position is going to keep it in that position

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

Again, and maybe I'm wrong, but on the PSA holder I see no designed area in the holder that is supposed to keep the card secure. Am I missing something?
I don't see how knocking it back into position is going to keep it in that position

It's in an internal sleeve, which usually will keep it relatively stable. There is also pressure from the two halves of the slab. Beckett cards don't go all the way out to the edge of the slats but they mostly look OK.

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's in an internal sleeve, which usually will keep it relatively stable. There is also pressure from the two halves of the slab. Beckett cards don't go all the way out to the edge of the slats but they mostly look OK.

But it's still subject to move around, and undeniably FUGLY.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by perezfan

But it's still subject to move around, and undeniably FUGLY.

It's a holder. Big deal. If SGC hadn't graded it FIVE grades low I wouldn't even have submitted it. Amazing to me the focus of this thread has become the PSA slab, not the fact that SGC has no clue and gave me a 4 on a mint card.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's a holder. Big deal. If SGC hadn't graded it FIVE grades low I wouldn't even have submitted it. Amazing to me the focus of this thread has become the PSA slab, not the fact that SGC has no clue and gave me a 4 on a mint card.

It's almost always going to be the other way. The lower grade is usually the more accurate one and the higher one missed something. SGC didn't pull a number out of a hat. The grader clearly saw something. Whether what they saw justifies the grade is up for debate. But unfortunately, we don't get to find out what they saw. We have to guess, look at scans, or take your word for it. Ultimately, we don't have enough information to know which company is clueless.

[ruth-gehrig]

Grading has always been an opinion no?

[gunboat82]

Originally Posted by ruth-gehrig

Grading has always been an opinion no?

Sure, but I'd expect people who call themselves professionals to be within spitting distance of the same grade when looking at the same card and using written standards for each grade level.

In this case, it's clear that one of the companies simply got it very, very wrong.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

It's almost always going to be the other way. The lower grade is usually the more accurate one and the higher one missed something. SGC didn't pull a number out of a hat. The grader clearly saw something. Whether what they saw justifies the grade is up for debate. But unfortunately, we don't get to find out what they saw. We have to guess, look at scans, or take your word for it. Ultimately, we don't have enough information to know which company is clueless.

As I have said they graded the whole sub wrong, 2 grades in most cases, some more. There was nothing to see here. Just incompetence, likely the grader was some kid used to perfect out of the pack shiny. On this particular sub, they were clueless. It was not worth the money to regrade most of the cards, the only other card I did went from a 6 to an 8.