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Old 12-06-2024, 02:34 PM
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I like the part in the document where it says the chemical used should be in a well ventilated area. Not exactly the best conditions in a literal air tight sealed case with a centimeter of total space for air lol. How can you even argue with that.
I think that pertains to minimizing the hazard of inhaling it?
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Old 12-06-2024, 02:40 PM
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I think that pertains to minimizing the hazard of inhaling it?
No clue. But in any case, I wouldn't want that on my card.
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No clue. But in any case, I wouldn't want that on my card.
You need to drink the card bro Kool Aid. It's all good I am telling you. LOL the very notion that we are at a place where people approve of treating cards with shit that needs to comply with OSHA hazardous materials disclosures. What a world.
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You need to drink the card bro Kool Aid. It's all good I am telling you. LOL the very notion that we are at a place where people approve of treating cards with shit that needs to comply with OSHA hazardous materials disclosures. What a world.
To be fair, in industrial settings pretty much everything has to have an MSDS.
We had them for chromed steel cylinder rods.

No that using some witches brew of alcohol is good. Or what might be mineral spirits as "polish"
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I think that pertains to minimizing the hazard of inhaling it?
“Yes, but I didn’t inhale.”
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SDS forms are both very specific and very generalized depending on what part of the SDS you're dealing with.

Technically, if spilled this cleaner should be cleaned with "non-combustible absorbent material, (e.g. sand, earth, diatomaceous earth, vermiculite) and place in container for disposal according to local / national regulations"

...realistically you'll clean it up with a paper towel, throw it in a trash can, and it will be of extremely little danger.

You would have to work in a very "by the book" lab to follow the recommended SDS procedure for every instance of a noted occurrence.
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You would have to work in a very "by the book" lab to follow the recommended SDS procedure for every instance of a noted occurrence.
I guess we have lab-created cards now!
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SDS forms are both very specific and very generalized depending on what part of the SDS you're dealing with.

Technically, if spilled this cleaner should be cleaned with "non-combustible absorbent material, (e.g. sand, earth, diatomaceous earth, vermiculite) and place in container for disposal according to local / national regulations"

...realistically you'll clean it up with a paper towel, throw it in a trash can, and it will be of extremely little danger.

You would have to work in a very "by the book" lab to follow the recommended SDS procedure for every instance of a noted occurrence.
Very good points. I would just like to add a few details.
The SDS should also have "% Ranges" of the hazardous chemicals such as 5-15%, It could or should list 'Water" or distilled water and that range. Also The non haz Proprietary ingredients may include the surfactant if they are non Haz. Most are Non-Haz but that too should show a " % range". All of them should add up to at least 100%. Still not giving up any formulas or trade secrets

If the alcohol content is 15% or greater, it would need to be classified as "UN1170 Ethanol Solutions, which is an EPA RCRA Hazardous in Section 14.
If Kurt wants to call it "Non-Haz", he has to prove it with a simple "Flashpoint" test from an accredited laboratory. It costs a whopping $50 bucks. Save on the meth and get the test is my advice.

If it flashes at 140F or lower, it's Flammable. 140F-160F it's "Combustible". Both are hazardous. It may qualify to ship DOT as a "Y" Limited Quantities to his customers.

Your almost there Kurt. Good luck. Hope OSHA wasn't too hard on you.

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Imagine if he had to prove it wasn't hazardous to the card.
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