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Old 12-30-2024, 09:39 PM
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My dad was born in 1900 in NYC. He could have run into Old Judge players on the street.
Similarly, my dad was born in 1897 in Chicago, where he may have crossed paths with Old Judge players. I recall Dad telling me that he and his buddies played stickball on the streets of Chicago.
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I’ve identified 2 Minor Leaguers and 5 Southern Leaguers who may have never died. In a couple of cases, I’m starting to think they may never have existed — a cross-up in first and last name, someone else’s photo, etc.

Minor Leaguers (DOD)
Phelan, Jimmy (N/A)
Poland, Phil (N/A)

Southern Leaguers (DOD)
Miller, Molly (N/A)
Reagan, Ed (N/A)
Ryan, Ray (N/A)
Smith, Carlos (N/A)
White, Foley (N/A)
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Old 12-31-2024, 07:34 AM
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Amazing research.

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I’ve identified 2 Minor Leagues and 5 Southern Leaguers who may have never died. In a couple of cases, I’m starting to think they may never have existed — a cross-up in first and last name, someone else’s photo, etc.

Minor Leaguers (DOD)
Phelan, Jimmy (N/A)
Poland, Phil (N/A)

Southern Leaguers (DOD)
Miller, Molly (N/A)
Reagan, Ed (N/A)
Ryan, Ray (N/A)
Smith, Carlos (N/A)
White, Foley (N/A)
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I’ve identified 2 Minor Leagues and 5 Southern Leaguers who may have never died. In a couple of cases, I’m starting to think they may never have existed — a cross-up in first and last name, someone else’s photo, etc.

Minor Leaguers (DOD)
Phelan, Jimmy (N/A)
Poland, Phil (N/A)

Southern Leaguers (DOD)
Miller, Molly (N/A)
Reagan, Ed (N/A)
Ryan, Ray (N/A)
Smith, Carlos (N/A)
White, Foley (N/A)

John Phelan is Jimmy Phelan: http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=phelan001joh

Philip Poland: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=poland002phi

Charles Miller is Molly Miller: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=miller002cha

Ed Reagan is Eddie Reagan: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...=reagan002edw#

Ray Ryan: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=ryan--001ray

Carlos Smith: https://www.baseball-reference.com/r...d=smith-006car

Foley White: http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=white-001fol
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Old 12-31-2024, 11:28 PM
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Thanks for the heads up! Last time I had checked Baseball Reference didn’t have DOB for any of those 7. Seems like now only Phelan, Poland, and Miller are missing birthdays.

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These are the players I don't have info on
#22 Bastian, Jack ??
#335 Miller, Molly ??
#390 Phelan, Jimmy ??
#395 Poland, Phil ??
#283 Lentz, Harry Sentz ??
#501 Westlake, James ??
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Back to the Tyler sub-thread. So fathering a child at 75? Bravo and well done. Definitely worth going down the rabbit hole to research this one.
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These are the players I don't have info on
#22 Bastian, Jack ??
#335 Miller, Molly ??
#390 Phelan, Jimmy ??
#395 Poland, Phil ??
#283 Lentz, Harry Sentz ??
#501 Westlake, James ??
John Kenney ("Jack") Bastian
Birth: May 10, 1883
Newburgh, NY
Death: June 14, 1959
Newburgh, NY

Harry Sentz
Birth: January 31, 1883
Baltimore, MD
Death: January 8, 1932
Baltimore, MD

James Arthur Westlake
Birth: November 1, 1874
New Jersey
Death: August 31, 1935
Essex, NJ
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Also, in case anyone is interested, T206 players started dying while the cards were being produced between 1909-11 (Powers, McGann, Nichols, and Joss), and thereafter died at a fairly low annual cadence of no more than 15 players (1947 and 1956) on an annual basis over the next 60-70 years, with 40% (159) dying between 1947 and 1961.
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Just updated my list

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John Kenney ("Jack") Bastian
Birth: May 10, 1883
Newburgh, NY
Death: June 14, 1959
Newburgh, NY

Harry Sentz
Birth: January 31, 1883
Baltimore, MD
Death: January 8, 1932
Baltimore, MD

James Arthur Westlake
Birth: November 1, 1874
New Jersey
Death: August 31, 1935
Essex, NJ
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