Authenticated eBay Cards Through PSA

[raulus]

Originally Posted by Beercan collector

I would be interested how It worked out for anyone who bought a raw card that went through the guarantee

I’ve had a couple of raw cards that went through the AG process. In both cases, PSA identified flaws that weren’t included in the listing. PSA then emailed me, and I think sent me messages through the eBay app to send me pictures that highlighted the flaws. They then gave me the option of proceeding with the purchase, or canceling it.

In both cases, I still wanted the card for the price I paid, so I told PSA to proceed with sending me the card.

Not sure whether PSA ever said anything to the seller, or if they were oblivious to the whole process until it was over.

I’ve heard from others around here that sometimes PSA will just cancel the sale when they find undisclosed flaws, rather than giving the buyer the option to continue with the purchase anyway. So your experience may not always be the same as mine if similar issues are encountered.

[Beercan collector]

Originally Posted by raulus

I’ve had a couple of raw cards that went through the AG process. In both cases, PSA identified flaws that weren’t included in the listing. PSA then emailed me, and I think sent me messages through the eBay app to send me pictures that highlighted the flaws. They then gave me the option of proceeding with the purchase, or canceling it.

In both cases, I still wanted the card for the price I paid, so I told PSA to proceed with sending me the card.

Not sure whether PSA ever said anything to the seller, or if they were oblivious to the whole process until it was over.

I’ve heard from others around here that sometimes PSA will just cancel the sale when they find undisclosed flaws, rather than giving the buyer the option to continue with the purchase anyway. So your experience may not always be the same as mine if similar issues are encountered.

That sounds like a pretty good experience - Hopefully they’ll operate at that level on a consistent basis

[campyfan39]

I think it's irritating. I have been collecting for 40+ years I know when something is real or not. And to buy something graded and it takes forever to go through their "authenticator" is a drag, IMO.

I only had one issue other than the extra charge and the delayed time to get it. That was when I was selling an ungraded card.

I gave the guy a heck of a deal, and we negotiated through eBay's messaging. It was on "hold" for several days, and neither knew what was going on. Then eBay sent me an "urgent message," saying there was some discoloration on the back that I did not disclose in the listing. They were going to talk to the buyer.

The buyer said "I know the condition because he put the max number of pics on the listing. Send it to me."
I looked at all of my pics of the card again and there was no discoloration.

They then released it to him, but it still took 3-5 business days for my funds (that were on hold) to get to my account.

I think the buyer and seller should have the option to send it through or not. IMO its just another money maker for ebay and PSA.

The whole ordeal was useless as I had the label that it was a PSA4 when I got it years ago and cracked it out. It also took more than 3 weeks to get paid.

[CardPadre]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

I think it's irritating. I have been collecting for 40+ years I know when something is real or not. And to buy something graded and it takes forever to go through their "authenticator" is a drag, IMO.

You must have been a little oblivious as to how rampant fraud and scamming was becoming on eBay during the boom. Fake cards, fake slabs, sellers not shipping the correct card. Any possible way someone could try and pull one over…they were trying. It really is a necessary inconvenience.

[campyfan39]

I still think it should be up to the buyer.
And i am not "oblivious" to anything in the area I collect, as I have been active for most of my life.

Originally Posted by CardPadre

You must have been a little oblivious as to how rampant fraud and scamming was becoming on eBay during the boom. Fake cards, fake slabs, sellers not shipping the correct card. Any possible way someone could try and pull one over…they were trying. It really is a necessary inconvenience.

[Gorditadogg]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

I still think it should be up to the buyer.
And i am not "oblivious" to anything in the area I collect, as I have been active for most of my life.

So are you saying as a buyer you would be fine with giving up any right to protest with Ebay? Let's say the card you got didn't match the picture. The picture showed an authentic Campanella card that you paid the seller $3000 for, but the seller sent you a reprint. You would accept that loss and wouldn't expect Ebay to help you make it good?

I just can't see how anybody that has as much experience as you do would put yourself out there like that, just to get your card a couple days sooner.

[campyfan39]

That's a fair point. I am just too trusting I guess. The cards I buy are not anywhere close to 3k, and I check feedback, etc., but I see where you are coming from.
Before this authentication process, didn't you have recourse with eBay by filing for a return saying it didn't match the listing?
Chris

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

So are you saying as a buyer you would be fine with giving up any right to protest with Ebay? Let's say the card you got didn't match the picture. The picture showed an authentic Campanella card that you paid the seller $3000 for, but the seller sent you a reprint. You would accept that loss and wouldn't expect Ebay to help you make it good?

I just can't see how anybody that has as much experience as you do would put yourself out there like that, just to get your card a couple days sooner.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by campyfan39

I think it's irritating. I have been collecting for 40+ years I know when something is real or not. And to buy something graded and it takes forever to go through their "authenticator" is a drag, IMO.

I only had one issue other than the extra charge and the delayed time to get it. That was when I was selling an ungraded card.

I gave the guy a heck of a deal, and we negotiated through eBay's messaging. It was on "hold" for several days, and neither knew what was going on. Then eBay sent me an "urgent message," saying there was some discoloration on the back that I did not disclose in the listing. They were going to talk to the buyer.

The buyer said "I know the condition because he put the max number of pics on the listing. Send it to me."
I looked at all of my pics of the card again and there was no discoloration.

They then released it to him, but it still took 3-5 business days for my funds (that were on hold) to get to my account.

I think the buyer and seller should have the option to send it through or not. IMO its just another money maker for ebay and PSA.

The whole ordeal was useless as I had the label that it was a PSA4 when I got it years ago and cracked it out. It also took more than 3 weeks to get paid.

What extra charge are you referring to? I didn't think there was a separate charge for the authentication, but I haven't bought any cards in a while that went through it.

[Jenx34]

Originally Posted by jayshum

What extra charge are you referring to? I didn't think there was a separate charge for the authentication, but I haven't bought any cards in a while that went through it.

There isn't any extra fee.

Extra mail time is the only real drawback.

[jayshum]

Originally Posted by Jenx34

There isn't any extra fee.

Extra mail time is the only real drawback.

That's what I thought, but the post I responded to said something about an extra fee so I was curious what he was referring to.

[frankhardy]

Am I correct in thinking that once a card passes the authentication process and is delivered to the buyer that there is no refund unless the seller agrees? In other words I am of the thinking that once it passes authentication that the seller has a guaranteed sale. Am I right on that?