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Peter_Spaeth · #1 01-11-2025, 10:14 PM

Perhaps you are skeptical of the CDC, and in some areas there is reason to be, but according to them, and probably many other agencies, needle exchange programs benefit more than the "abusers."

https://www.cdc.gov/syringe-services...php/index.html

G1911 · #2 01-11-2025, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Perhaps you are skeptical of the CDC, and in some areas there is reason to be, but according to them, and probably many other agencies, needle exchange programs benefit more than the "abusers."

https://www.cdc.gov/syringe-services...php/index.html

I don't doubt there are positive health impacts from giving heroin junkies needles so they get less disease. I don't think, like most people in the US, that the government should be subsidizing the drug habits of illegal substances at all. "Abusers" in quotes is pretty funny though. I'm sure the heroin junky shooting up with a California paid for needle isn't an abuser of illegal substances

. This board lol

Balticfox · #3 01-11-2025, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911

"Abusers" in quotes is pretty funny though.

Good eye! I hadn't even noticed that yet.

A very curious use of quotation marks indeed.

Peter_Spaeth · #4 01-11-2025, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Balticfox

Good eye! I hadn't even noticed that yet.

A very curious use of quotation marks indeed.

Well, sure, in one sense they are of course abusing but the term can have a very pejorative and contemptuous connotation implying some sort of moral failing, at least as I have heard it, and that may not necessarily be warranted in some cases.

G1911 · #5 01-11-2025, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well, sure, in one sense they are of course abusing but the term can have a very pejorative and contemptuous connotation implying some sort of moral failing, at least as I have heard it, and that may not necessarily be warranted in some cases.

I'm sure the people shooting up heroin with taxpayer funded clean needles are guilty of no moral failing and are not always abusers of the illegal and deadly substance they are injecting into themselves. What a horrible implication it would be to suggest otherwise or to have contempt for the losers shooting up on the sidewalk

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Perhaps one day California will deal with actual problems instead of this kind of crap, but I doubt it. Subsidizing illegal drug use and denying human biology are higher up the priority list because reasons.

Peter_Spaeth · #6 01-12-2025, 12:01 AM

It's not nearly so simple as branding these people "losers" or morally deficient.

https://invisiblepeople.tv/how-homel...their%20escape.

Svabinsky78 · #7 01-12-2025, 12:17 AM

All pretty surreal. Have numerous colleagues and friends who lost their homes.

I live in the hills of Studio City, just over the ridge from the Sunset Fire. I think we were fortunate because by the time the Sunset Fire broke out in the Hollywood Hills, the wind had calmed down considerably, which enabled the FD choppers to attack the fire from the air. Having the Hollywood Reservoir right there also helped with knocking that fire out with relative ease.

I think had the Sunset Fire started in the first 24-48 hours of this ordeal, when the winds were raging, Studio City and Hollywood likely would not have gone unscathed.

Dewey · #8 01-12-2025, 12:21 AM

Adam, I am okay. Though I have 9 friends who lost homes. Thanks for asking. A tragic time.

Meanwhile, why is some Canadian dude crapping on my city while we suffer? He probably voted for Rob Ford.

Government funding is what it is. But tell me what a billion dollars more would have done to stop 80mph winds, grounded Super Scoopers (thanks Canada for helping!), and generationally dry conditions? Not a darn thing, that's what.

Let history be the judge if and where the blame should be laid. The current blame game only serves ideological division with its trollish, cherry-picked facts. Give it a rest.

Angelinos, hang in there. A few more days of this wind.

G1911 · #9 01-12-2025, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's not nearly so simple as branding these people "losers" or morally deficient.

https://invisiblepeople.tv/how-homel...their%20escape.

I called addicts who need my tax dollars to pay for their drug needles losers, not homeless people. I'm sure heroin junkies are morally virtuous winners, and that pigs fly. I guess heroin junkies and homeless people are the same thing. This is beyond stupid.

gregndodgers · #10 01-11-2025, 11:24 PM

"The LAFD budget for the 2023-2024 fiscal year of $837 million was also dwarfed by the city�s homeless budget of $1.3 billion." See Note below for URL.

What? really? You're telling me that hard working families, businesses, and homeowners have to take a back seat to the homeless? That is a sign of incompetence. I am willing to help homeless but not at the expense of safety for the men and women who are out there being productive.

Oh, and since I work downtown near skid row, I know first hand that the $1.3 billion has really turned that place around. NOT. I have to wonder where that money is really going.

Note:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...b9d0e6b5&ei=10

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