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Old 01-28-2025, 01:27 PM
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Mahomes is the face of the NFL. Good for the brand to keep him in. More importantly, the Chiefs bring with them an army of Swift fans that otherwise don’t care about football. They would not tune in for the Bills.
This literally doesn't explain how anyone makes more money.
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This literally doesn't explain how anyone makes more money.
Higher viewership, higher merchandise sales. Advertisers understand that the Chiefs bring with them an army. If you think Swift does not add hundreds of millions of dollars to the enterprise, you underestimate her global significance.
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Old 01-28-2025, 01:49 PM
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In the last 11 playoff games the chiefs opponent has been flagged more 11 times. Better coaching I guess. Nothing to see. If you watched the Texans and Bills game it didn’t pass the eye test.
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Old 01-28-2025, 03:37 PM
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In the last 11 playoff games the chiefs opponent has been flagged more 11 times. Better coaching I guess. Nothing to see. If you watched the Texans and Bills game it didn’t pass the eye test.
It happened last year too if you go back and watch those games.....the other times the Chiefs made it they made it there cleanly, but the last 2 Super Bowl visits are highly questionable.
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Old 01-28-2025, 01:56 PM
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Higher viewership, higher merchandise sales. Advertisers understand that the Chiefs bring with them an army. If you think Swift does not add hundreds of millions of dollars to the enterprise, you underestimate her global significance.
How global is the Super Bowl?

The most watched Super Bowl in history (pre-streaming) was the 2015 Patriots / Seahawks Super Bowl. Katy Perry was the star of the halftime show. The quality of the game determined that more people tuned in as the game went on. Imagine that.
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Old 01-28-2025, 02:11 PM
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https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/...bdc0a2930d6129

Pick your source, the media was running with this $331.5 million only from September 2023 to January 2024 alone. She brings a ton of eyes and money. There is a very long history of the biggest players and teams getting more lenient officiating in sports, leading to more wins and better outcomes for them. I would be quite surprised if the NFL right now is a sudden exception to that.
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When Greg and I agree on an issue that makes it an unassailable position, almost by definition!
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Old 01-28-2025, 02:33 PM
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That ignores all other revenue generating story lines. If the Bills made it to the Super Bowl it would bring a ton of eyes. Who wouldn't want to see the Bills either finally win or pitifully lose a fifth Super Bowl?

I do agree that exceptional players get the benefit of a lot of doubts. An umpire might call a strike on a rookie they wouldn't call if Aaron Judge were at the plate, for example. But league-wide collusion to alter the outcomes of games at the executive level seems farfetched.

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Old 01-28-2025, 03:41 PM
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That ignores all other revenue generating story lines. If the Bills made it to the Super Bowl it would bring a ton of eyes. Who wouldn't want to see the Bills either finally win or pitifully lose a fifth Super Bowl?

I do agree that exceptional players get the benefit of a lot of doubts. An umpire might call a strike on a rookie they wouldn't call if Aaron Judge were at the plate, for example. But league-wide collusion to alter the outcomes of games at the executive level seems farfetched.
This is true for Guys. But for female viewship it's all about the Chiefs and Kelce and the Tramp.

And no league wide collusion, not sure who started that. This is all Goodell, he is a crook. He is money & power happy. He wants the most watched most money generated SB's while it's under his helm.

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When Greg and I agree on an issue that makes it an unassailable position, almost by definition!
I laughed lol. This is the definition
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Old 01-28-2025, 05:10 PM
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https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/...bdc0a2930d6129

Pick your source, the media was running with this $331.5 million only from September 2023 to January 2024 alone. She brings a ton of eyes and money. There is a very long history of the biggest players and teams getting more lenient officiating in sports, leading to more wins and better outcomes for them. I would be quite surprised if the NFL right now is a sudden exception to that.
I missed clicking the link but now have and here is a good factoid:


How much money has Taylor Swift made for the NFL?
Swift attended her first Chiefs game of 2023 on Sept. 24. Since then, she's attended 12 games total, including the AFC championship. The Super Bowl will be her 13th game, which, if you know the 14-time Grammy winner, couldn't be more fitting.

Ahead of the Chiefs' AFC title win over the Ravens on Jan. 28, Apex Marketing Group calculated how much brand value Swift has generated for the league and the Kansas City-based franchise. The revenue added by the singer came out to an estimated $331.5 million between print, digital, radio, TV, highlights and social media, according to Front Office Sports.
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I missed clicking the link but now have and here is a good factoid:


How much money has Taylor Swift made for the NFL?
Swift attended her first Chiefs game of 2023 on Sept. 24. Since then, she's attended 12 games total, including the AFC championship. The Super Bowl will be her 13th game, which, if you know the 14-time Grammy winner, couldn't be more fitting.

Ahead of the Chiefs' AFC title win over the Ravens on Jan. 28, Apex Marketing Group calculated how much brand value Swift has generated for the league and the Kansas City-based franchise. The revenue added by the singer came out to an estimated $331.5 million between print, digital, radio, TV, highlights and social media, according to Front Office Sports.
Something seems fishy and frankly I doubt BOTH sets of numbers. Forbes says the Chiefs revenue was $591M for 2023. Even if you spread Swift's impact over 2 years......that's remarkably significant.

https://www.forbes.com/teams/kansas-city-chiefs/
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Something seems fishy and frankly I doubt BOTH sets of numbers. Forbes says the Chiefs revenue was $591M for 2023. Even if you spread Swift's impact over 2 years......that's remarkably significant.

https://www.forbes.com/teams/kansas-city-chiefs/
yah why believe Forbes, they've only been around since 1917.
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Thank you both, gentlemen. For the record I wont be watching the SB either. Not because I think its fixed but because I dont care for either team. But my question was in the broader sense....I dont understand why you would watch any games at all. Just a hard habit to break?
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Something seems fishy and frankly I doubt BOTH sets of numbers. Forbes says the Chiefs revenue was $591M for 2023. Even if you spread Swift's impact over 2 years......that's remarkably significant.

https://www.forbes.com/teams/kansas-city-chiefs/
because those figures ad intangibles into the value. Like the claim that Tiger's chip in at the Masters where the Nike logo hung over the lip of the cup nad then fell in was worth 100 Million to Nike.

Nobody handed Nike $100 million in cash, and their sales didn't go up by that amount, but the amount of airplay that shot got in terms of advertising was worth that much.

So first off, $300 million is chicken feed compared to the revenue the NFL as a whole generates even if it was actual cash in someone's pocket; And again who's pocket??? It's not like Goodell gets to stuff it in his mattress, league revenues get shared so now you're dividing the spoils 32 ways. But wait that $300 million figure is largely intangibles like the Nike figure.

But yup, the other owners are all going to agree to not win Super Bowls because Taylor Swift blah, blah blah...
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