Ebay Authentication is a Comical JOKE.

danmckee · #1 01-30-2025, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Exhibitman

The program is a mixed bag. I like the idea, especially with raw cards, both, as a buyer and a seller. I recently purchased a rare/expensive card from Argentina (no eBay auth. program) and believe me, i sweated whether the card would be good (it was). So the program alleviates some of that anxiety for buyers. I also (usually) like it as a seller because it chops the legs out of buyer's remorse returns and transportation mishap returns from the authenticator to the buyer. On the whole, i think it is a positive. The screw-ups are basically what Dan experienced with the holder condition or what I recently experienced, which was a 'not a card' rejection even though SGC grades the damn card.

They could fix most of the issues by simply allowing the buyer to decide if he or she wants the card despite the alleged issue before sending it back.

Or just put "set break" in the listing and bypass the program entirely. Or throw in a common and list it as two cards.

As for the bitch-slap battle over whether this is worth comment, yeah, it is. Dan wasn't selling a cranberry sparkle shiny crap card that the buyer could just buy elsewhere, it was a tough card, and the deal interference w/o buyer input is frustrating as heck.

Thanks Adam, my thoughts exactly! Let the freggin buyer decide for heaven's sake......

packs · #2 01-30-2025, 08:11 AM

I had a recent transaction cancelled because of the authenticity program as well. They said my card had a surface scratch. My description of the card was that it was in near mint condition. This was a modern card that went from pack to holder and I honestly didn't see any scratches on the card when I put it up for sale.

I had no issue with them returning it to me. What I did find really annoying and what did agitate me about the process was that eBay claimed they sent detailed photos of my card to the buyer and the buyer decided not to purchase.

I have been in the buyer's position and had a transaction I purchased cancelled due to the program. eBay most certainly did not make any attempt to contact me as the buyer to see if I still wanted the card, and they definitely didn't take the time to take their own photos and send them to me to review. I knew that never happened and I don't understand why they told me it did.

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #3 01-30-2025, 08:23 AM

Who cares about a scratched slab? Unless it's some drastic box cutter or screwdriver gouge, then honestly, get over it. The slab is just housing what actually matters.

Well, I'm a bit biased, as I could care less about the slab even if it was pristine. Those things are clunky and just get in the way. There's nothing less satisfying than multiplying the space and weight of your collection 30 fold.

CardPadre · #4 01-30-2025, 08:48 AM

Look, to everyone who says they don't care about scratches on their slabs, you are full of beans (and sh!t).

If you like slabs on your cards, you don't like scratches on your slabs. Go make a poll asking collectors here what they think and we'll expose what absolute nonsense that is.

BioCRN · #5 01-30-2025, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by CardPadre

Look, to everyone who says they don't care about scratches on their slabs, you are full of beans (and sh!t).

If you like slabs on your cards, you don't like scratches on your slabs. Go make a poll asking collectors here what they think and we'll expose what absolute nonsense that is.

My dude, 20 cents worth of solution and a few minutes can get your plastic holder "pack fresh."

It's an extremely minor deal to a lot of people. Many don't even bother with getting the scratches out.

The card up top as a not-totally-specific example...it's oversized and an old slab. I suggest you never bid or buy one of these. There's a high chance of disappointment.

CardPadre · #6 01-30-2025, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BioCRN

My dude, 20 cents worth of solution and a few minutes can get your plastic holder "pack fresh."

It's an extremely minor deal to a lot of people. Many don't even bother with getting the scratches out.

The card up top as a not-totally-specific example...it's oversized and an old slab. I suggest you never bid or buy one of these. There's a high chance of disappointment.

I know all about slabs and YOU know that no solution will take out deep scratching.

I am disappointed in every single slab and I destroy every single one that has a card I want inside.

Rich Klein · #7 01-31-2025, 09:51 AM

1) Anyone who buys a Demaree Die Cut has about a 99.5 percent chance of knowing about how difficult the card is and does not care about a scratch on the holder. He or she just wants the card.

2) The EBay authenticator has some "guidelines" they must follow and attempt to treat everyone the same.

Both of these can be accurate at the same time and yes it can cause some frustrations along the way but I think I'd rather always err on the side of protecting both the seller and the buyer and understand no system is 100 percent accurate.

gnaz01 · #8 01-30-2025, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CardPadre

Look, to everyone who says they don't care about scratches on their slabs, you are full of beans (and sh!t).

If you like slabs on your cards, you don't like scratches on your slabs. Go make a poll asking collectors here what they think and we'll expose what absolute nonsense that is.

If it is a rare card, I (and I am sure many others who have been on here forever) do NOT care because I can always send it in to get reslabbed for a small fee....

I am sure a poll would show the same but I would not GUARANTEE it

Balticfox · #9 01-31-2025, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CardPadre

Look, to everyone who says they don't care about scratches on their slabs, you are full of beans (and sh!t).

If you like slabs on your cards, you don't like scratches on your slabs. Go make a poll asking collectors here what they think and we'll expose what absolute nonsense that is.

But those of us who care about cards and only cards care not about slabs. We just roll our eyes at label collectors.

raulus · #10 01-30-2025, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by packs

I have been in the buyer's position and had a transaction I purchased cancelled due to the program. eBay most certainly did not make any attempt to contact me as the buyer to see if I still wanted the card, and they definitely didn't take the time to take their own photos and send them to me to review. I knew that never happened and I don't understand why they told me it did.

I've twice been a buyer when there were problems identified during the AG process.

In both situations, I was emailed and contacted over the eBay app, with a description of the issue, and detailed photos identifying the issue that they identified. They then asked me to decide whether I still wanted the item, or whether I wanted to cancel the transaction. In both cases, I still wanted the item.

So it does happen this way, although it sounds like it doesn't happen every time.

OhioLawyerF5 · #11 02-01-2025, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by raulus

I've twice been a buyer when there were problems identified during the AG process.

In both situations, I was emailed and contacted over the eBay app, with a description of the issue, and detailed photos identifying the issue that they identified. They then asked me to decide whether I still wanted the item, or whether I wanted to cancel the transaction. In both cases, I still wanted the item.

So it does happen this way, although it sounds like it doesn't happen every time.

I have also been a buyer when the card failed due to condition, ebay reached out with detailed photos, and gave me the option to proceed with the purchase or pass.

So they definitely do that sometimes. I wonder why they don't do it all the time.

packs · #12 02-02-2025, 11:27 AM

I am now embroiled in an annoyance of my own. In 2022 I pulled a redemption for an autographed card and listed it. After maybe a year and a half I redeemed the redemption for the card because it didn't seem like there was a lot of interest. Flash forward to last week, someone purchased the redemption. I then mailed them to card I received when I redeemed.

Buyer has opened a return because they didn't receive the redemption card and are angry they received the actual card.

CardPadre · #13 02-02-2025, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by packs

I am now embroiled in an annoyance of my own. In 2022 I pulled a redemption for an autographed card and listed it. After maybe a year and a half I redeemed the redemption for the card because it didn't seem like there was a lot of interest. Flash forward to last week, someone purchased the redemption. I then mailed them to card I received when I redeemed.

Buyer has opened a return because they didn't receive the redemption card and are angry they received the actual card.

Yeah, bummer, totally your fault*.

*is what it sounds like

packs · #14 02-02-2025, 12:00 PM

They will get the return. Buyer can wait for the same card to come in the mail from Topps if they choose.

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