1955-1970 Topps Virtual Series Sheets

[ncal88]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Here are the known partial sheets.

I had found this miscut earlier of Duke Snider which appears to show a red background below but your images have him above a yellow and a green.

Also, do you think introduction of the 33 yellow variations reduced the print run of the 33 base versions counterparts?

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by ncal88

I had found this miscut earlier of Duke Snider which appears to show a red background below but your images have him above a yellow and a green.

Also, do you think introduction of the 33 yellow variations reduced the print run of the 33 base versions counterparts?

Kevin and I have found so many row changes on 1958 1st Series cards that there is no way they made only two 132 card slits, we suspect they made four or maybe even six different 132 card slits. We reconstructed the three missing rows of 33 cards but there hasn’t been a virtual sheet made of them yet.

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Kevin and I have found so many row changes on 1958 1st Series cards that there is no way they made only two 132 card slits, we suspect they made four or maybe even six different 132 card slits. We reconstructed the three missing rows of 33 cards but there hasn’t been a virtual sheet made of them yet.

I wonder now if Topps reconfigured stuff to put in more LA/SF players in the packs as each series spread west. They seem to have been able to move rows around pretty easily, just not sure if any of the "extra" arrays you mention would reflect this possibility. I think they may have done something a little similar in 1954 and 1955 but more to make it seems like there were more cards than there actually were than whatever occurred in '58.

[Kevvyg1026]

Yes, Snider is above Zimmer in one partial, then above Burdette in another, and the miscut you are referring to also places him above Porter.

There is also a miscut Landis (same row as Snider) which is above Virgil (same row as Porter). This is why Cliff mentioned that the slit patterns of series 1 are difficult to reconstruct, and make it appear as if there were multiple (different) sheets.

Similar oddities are present for the Dodger team card in this series, as well. And series 5, which only has five different rows, also displays multiple row switches.

[deweyinthehall]

Cliff and Kevvy have done the work on this one...

[ncal88]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Cliff and Kevvy have done the work on this one...

Thank you so much for these!

I love seeing the sheets together.

Can you send me the progress on the series 1 slits that you’re working on?

[Kevvyg1026]

We believe the missing 33 cards (i.e., 3 rows) are oriented (L to R, from Col 1 to Col 11) as follows:

Bob Hazle Frank Bolling Wally Burnette Roger Maris Del Rice Bill Fischer Ted Lepcio Dave Hillman Ron Jackson Bobby Adams Joe Lonnett


Billy Gardner Jerry Lynch Ted Kazanski Valmy Thomas Hal Naragon Billy O'Dell Bob Thurman Norm Siebern Roy Face Tex Clevenger Chuck Tanner


Bob Martyn Ronnie Kline Joe DeMaestri Hank Bauer Dick Gernert Joe Nuxhall Bud Byerly Herb Plews Johnny Kucks Joe Durham Felix Mantilla

[Kevvyg1026]

Here are the 5 strips from series 6. We have not yet been able to determine the slit patterns for the series 6 printings since there are a number of row changes that appear to occur.

The strips shown are the "newer" ones. The original strips must have contained four missing cards, identified as SPs in guides. These were cards 443 (Harrell), 446 (Hardy), Ward (450), and 462 (Geiger).

These four cards were removed (apparently) during later printings and extra Mantle AS (487) and Musial AS (476) cards were substituted.

I suspect that Harrell and Geiger were removed and two additional Musial AS cards substituted. I also suspect that Hardy and Ward were removed and extra Mantle AS cards substituted.

To support this conjecture, there is a Geiger miscut with an edge marking in the same location as a mark on a Musial miscut (and a Jensen miscut), while there is a miscut Ward with Hardy on his left.

1958_series_6_strips.jpg

[ncal88]

I found this miscut of Preston Ward. Im not sure if it lines up with Hardy or Harrell but Im leaning towards Hardy.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Kevvyg1026

I suspect that Harrell and Geiger were removed and two additional Musial AS cards substituted. I also suspect that Hardy and Ward were removed and extra Mantle AS cards substituted.

I think we can confirm the first printing goes Musial AS-Harrell-Geiger and Mantle AS-Hardy-Ward. Here's a miscut Geiger with Ward under it.

[stevepoland]

Originally Posted by deweyinthehall

Cliff and Kevvy have done the work on this one...

Sandy Koufax card 187 (1958 Topps 3rd series) — i don’t see it in the uncut sheets?

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by stevepoland

Sandy Koufax card 187 (1958 Topps 3rd series) — i don’t see it in the uncut sheets?

If Koufax is #187 then he is in the 2nd Series 111-198, that’s the series with Mantle and there are plenty of pics of that sheet online.

[stevepoland]

Ahh tcdb was wrong then, they said “Distributed as a First Series (#1-88), Second Series (#89-176), Third Series (#177-264), Fourth Series (#265-352), Fifth Series (#353-440) and Sixth Series (#441-495). #145 does not exist.
”

Thanks

[stevepoland]

Hmm the Series 3 checklist does show Koufax on there https://www.baseballcardpedia.com/index.php/1958_Topps