Ken Kendrick Talks About His Altered Wagner

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

He said he has pictures of it in its unaltered state. Would love to see those.

I believe at least one was published in the NY Post many years ago, although it was not high quality.

[Beercan collector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I believe at least one was published in the NY Post many years ago, although it was not high quality.

Apparently someone recently posted a cleaned up (better than before)
Pic to T206Resource - (showing 47 examples)
https://www.t206resource.com/Wagner-Gallery.html

[MVSNYC]

Great video.

[oldjudge]

So let me get this straight, after Ken purchased the card and the trimming history came out in the Mastro trial David Hall called Ken and offered to refund to him the $2.8 million he paid because PSA had failed to notice that the card was trimmed. But, in a recent podcast David Hall says that the card was agreed by him and his graders to have not been trimmed. What am I missing?

[Beercan collector]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

So let me get this straight, after Ken purchased the card and the trimming history came out in the Mastro trial David Hall called Ken and offered to refund to him the $2.8 million he paid because PSA had failed to notice that the card was trimmed. But, in a recent podcast David Hall says that the card was agreed by him and his graders to have not been trimmed. What am I missing?

+1 ... also if he accepted the offer would PSA deactivate it and regrade as authentic ?

[BobbyVCP]

Woulda-Coulda-Shoulda

PSA would love to get it for 2.8
guessing it is now worth in the area of 30-40 million

I think even if it was changed from a PSA 8 to Authentic Trimmed
it would still retain the same value...the pedigree alone and history of this one
card.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

Woulda-Coulda-Shoulda

PSA would love to get it for 2.8
guessing it is now worth in the area of 30-40 million

I think even if it was changed from a PSA 8 to Authentic Trimmed
it would still retain the same value...the pedigree alone and history of this one
card.

Agreed. At this point the flip is irrelevant.

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

So let me get this straight, after Ken purchased the card and the trimming history came out in the Mastro trial David Hall called Ken and offered to refund to him the $2.8 million he paid because PSA had failed to notice that the card was trimmed. But, in a recent podcast David Hall says that the card was agreed by him and his graders to have not been trimmed. What am I missing?

Hall saying it's "not trimmed" is about as trustworthy as Bill Clinton discussing the definition of "is" while under oath.

Hall may believe in his heart of hearts that the card was not trimmed per se, but he definitely knew it was not factory cut. I don't buy that he didn't; he was the world's foremost expert on the T206 set, and at one point in time had what I believe was the most complete master set with nearly all known back variations. This is one of the things that perpetually leaves me in SMH status about PSA. "We are the experts, send your valuable vintage cards to us." But yet what is that expertise when Hall is asked directly? Oh, it "doesn't look trimmed" to him. Huh? That's the "expert" opinion? Any pawn broker with a cigarette in his other hand can tell me that.

The whole genesis of PSA mixed with this story to me feels shady as hell...