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Old 05-02-2025, 08:52 AM
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Just sharing to see if others find this odd as I did.
No, I do not find this an odd response. As a seller on ebay, on rare occasions I receive questions of this sort. I have provided the same type of answer as this seller did: "I honestly don't know". I am certainly not an expert on print flaws and I believe most other ebay sellers are not either.

Why respond this way and not speculate on what the flaw is? Because I feel like a buyer is trying to "lock" me into what the flaw is. From there they can purchase the card and once in hand if they don't like the card's appearance, they can open a return stating an opinion different than what I provided in the message and return at my cost.

It seems if you are wanting an image from a different angle, you should directly ask.

If this flaw bothers you, move onto another copy of this card as there are 60+ SGC copies currently available on ebay.
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Old 05-02-2025, 09:17 AM
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No, I do not find this an odd response. As a seller on ebay, on rare occasions I receive questions of this sort. I have provided the same type of answer as this seller did: "I honestly don't know". I am certainly not an expert on print flaws and I believe most other ebay sellers are not either.

Why respond this way and not speculate on what the flaw is? Because I feel like a buyer is trying to "lock" me into what the flaw is. From there they can purchase the card and once in hand if they don't like the card's appearance, they can open a return stating an opinion different than what I provided in the message and return at my cost.

It seems if you are wanting an image from a different angle, you should directly ask.

If this flaw bothers you, move onto another copy of this card as there are 60+ SGC copies currently available on ebay.
The OP wasn't asking the seller to speculate on what the flaw could be, he was asking the seller if the flaw was on the card or from the camera. I bolded it in his quote below ...

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I was looking at a slabbed 1964 Rose, and I sent this question:

Hello - I notice slight discoloration in the white space between the R in Reds and the top of the photo, and again in the white border beneath 'Pete' on the bottom. Are these on the card or a product of the image? I am very interested in this card.
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Old 05-02-2025, 09:21 AM
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Judging by the pic provided by @CardPadre, the flaw is definitely on the card, and as @Gorditadogg mentioned it could be printer ink
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Old 05-02-2025, 10:09 AM
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I don't find the response as being odd...he is probably just busy.
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Old 05-02-2025, 10:28 AM
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The OP wasn't asking the seller to speculate on what the flaw could be, he was asking the seller if the flaw was on the card or from the camera. I bolded it in his quote below ...
He CLEARLY was expecting the seller to speculate on what this flaw could be based on his response to the seller's response: "I would have thought the realm of possible answers would be 1) the card is discolored, 2) it's the image, 3) It's very hard to tell, but here's a new image from a different angle, etc."

Card is discolored=speculation
It's hard to tell= not speculation


I also bolded it in his quote....

OP asked a vague question and got a vague answer but based on his response was clearly expecting the seller to speculate on what the flaw was on the card.
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No opinion on quality of seller's response but Larry, expert or not, you are one of my go to guys on print flaws
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Old 05-02-2025, 10:27 PM
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No opinion on quality of seller's response but Larry, expert or not, you are one of my go to guys on print flaws
Thank you Al, what I have learned in regard to E/Vs, I owe to you and the other E/V folks on the board.
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Old 05-02-2025, 10:45 AM
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OP asked a vague question and got a vague answer but based on his response was clearly expecting the seller to speculate on what the flaw was on the card.
The seller's ONLY question:

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Are these on the card or a product of the image?
How is this a vague question? He literally asked "A" or "B". The seller could've replied "A" or "B" and answered the question. Instead he gave the OP a useless & vague response.
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Old 05-02-2025, 11:09 AM
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The seller's ONLY question:



How is this a vague question? He literally asked "A" or "B". The seller could've replied "A" or "B" and answered the question. Instead he gave the OP a useless & vague response.
That's right, his question was simple, but his expectations were not. CLEARLY. If you READ the OP's expectations of the seller's response (the entire purpose of this thread, BTW), the OP was asking his A/B question with the intent of receiving a speculation about the flaw from the seller. This is why the OP mentioned the "realm of possible answers" he was expecting (quoted again below).

Perhaps you could explain why the OP has multiple response expectations (realm of possible answers) from a simple A/B question?

FYI, the seller's "vague" response of "I don't know" is nearly congruent with one of the OP's expected responses of "3) It's hard to tell".



Not sure why this is so unclear to you?


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"Not rude or otherwise inappropriate, just baffling it its content. I would have thought the realm of possible answers would be 1) the card is discolored, 2) it's the image, 3) It's very hard to tell, but here's a new image from a different angle, etc. Do you suppose it isn't a card he has in hand?"
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Old 05-02-2025, 11:35 AM
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I think we agree with each other Larry. Happy Friday
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Could the discoloration be a wax stain that has not been rubbed off before submission?
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