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Old 05-02-2025, 10:28 AM
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The OP wasn't asking the seller to speculate on what the flaw could be, he was asking the seller if the flaw was on the card or from the camera. I bolded it in his quote below ...
He CLEARLY was expecting the seller to speculate on what this flaw could be based on his response to the seller's response: "I would have thought the realm of possible answers would be 1) the card is discolored, 2) it's the image, 3) It's very hard to tell, but here's a new image from a different angle, etc."

Card is discolored=speculation
It's hard to tell= not speculation


I also bolded it in his quote....

OP asked a vague question and got a vague answer but based on his response was clearly expecting the seller to speculate on what the flaw was on the card.
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Old 05-02-2025, 10:34 AM
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No opinion on quality of seller's response but Larry, expert or not, you are one of my go to guys on print flaws
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Old 05-02-2025, 10:27 PM
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No opinion on quality of seller's response but Larry, expert or not, you are one of my go to guys on print flaws
Thank you Al, what I have learned in regard to E/Vs, I owe to you and the other E/V folks on the board.
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Old 05-02-2025, 10:45 AM
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OP asked a vague question and got a vague answer but based on his response was clearly expecting the seller to speculate on what the flaw was on the card.
The seller's ONLY question:

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Are these on the card or a product of the image?
How is this a vague question? He literally asked "A" or "B". The seller could've replied "A" or "B" and answered the question. Instead he gave the OP a useless & vague response.
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Old 05-02-2025, 11:09 AM
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The seller's ONLY question:



How is this a vague question? He literally asked "A" or "B". The seller could've replied "A" or "B" and answered the question. Instead he gave the OP a useless & vague response.
That's right, his question was simple, but his expectations were not. CLEARLY. If you READ the OP's expectations of the seller's response (the entire purpose of this thread, BTW), the OP was asking his A/B question with the intent of receiving a speculation about the flaw from the seller. This is why the OP mentioned the "realm of possible answers" he was expecting (quoted again below).

Perhaps you could explain why the OP has multiple response expectations (realm of possible answers) from a simple A/B question?

FYI, the seller's "vague" response of "I don't know" is nearly congruent with one of the OP's expected responses of "3) It's hard to tell".



Not sure why this is so unclear to you?


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"Not rude or otherwise inappropriate, just baffling it its content. I would have thought the realm of possible answers would be 1) the card is discolored, 2) it's the image, 3) It's very hard to tell, but here's a new image from a different angle, etc. Do you suppose it isn't a card he has in hand?"
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Old 05-02-2025, 11:35 AM
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I think we agree with each other Larry. Happy Friday
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Could the discoloration be a wax stain that has not been rubbed off before submission?
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For the record, I have asked other sellers, small as well as some large well-known ones, in the past whether some item or other was on the card or a product of the image. In my experience, they reply immediately with something like "Sorry - definitely the image...here's another view" or "yeah, that's a printing flaw". I assumed that if he had the card in-hand, even in a slab, it would relatively easy to decipher.



Suggesting I go around looking at eBay at other copies of the card was one of the oddest responses I had ever received from any seller on eBay in 20+ years. What if I looked at 1000 other copies? It would have no bearing on whether this particular specimen was marked or not.

In any event based upon the helpful scan above, I will be passing on the card. Thanks to the poster for that.
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