91 Topps Variations

Pat R · #1 05-30-2025, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CMGsBBCs

I just wanted everyone to know I'll be posting my big pulls on eBay then retiring... I just started to open a new cello box of 1991 Topps and in the first pack, I pulled a double jackpot pulling two vintage gems in one pack!

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Can't wait to see what the rest of the box brings!

Edit... 10 minutes later... Pack #4 had a Whiten Hand Over (with a very obvious scratch on the front)... Pack #6 had a Storm Davis WITH �... so, a nice top row of packs.
Two previous cello boxes I opened, First had a Hand Over Whiten, but Davis with no �... Second had 3 Storm Davis WITH �, but Whiten was hand under.
Saving the rest for later (but not too much later with these two possibilities in the last 18 packs)

It's funny how something random can be streaky. I have opened quite a few 91 Topps boxes. I had a couple of wrong back player manager cards from packs that I had opened back in 91. A couple of years ago I decided to buy some 91 boxes and in some of the first few boxes I pulled some wrong back player/manager cards out of boxes from different sources but I haven't pulled any since. I went a long time before pulling a Trebelhorn A* code until I ended up pulling 3 from two differnt boxes pretty close together and I haven't pulled any of those since then. I also opened quite a few boxes before pulling a "vintage" card until I pulled two from back to back boxes from two different sources. One was a 1977 Craig Swan that was on the top with the gum and had the instant win card. The other was a 1972 Billy Conigliaro that was in the middle with no instant win game card.

91 Topps pack with 77 Craig Swan card.jpg

91 Topps with 72 Billy Conigliaro.jpg

CMGsBBCs · #2 05-30-2025, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pat R

It's funny how something random can be streaky. I have opened quite a few 91 Topps boxes. I had a couple of wrong back player manager cards from packs that I had opened back in 91. A couple of years ago I decided to buy some 91 boxes and in some of the first few boxes I pulled some wrong back player/manager cards out of boxes from different sources but I haven't pulled any since. I went a long time before pulling a Trebelhorn A* code until I ended up pulling 3 from two differnt boxes pretty close together and I haven't pulled any of those since then. I also opened quite a few boxes before pulling a "vintage" card until I pulled two from back to back boxes from two different sources. One was a 1977 Craig Swan that was on the top with the gum and had the instant win card. The other was a 1972 Billy Conigliaro that was in the middle with no instant win game card.

These Cello Boxes, I did get all at the same time, and probably sold 4-5 before... (so those people probably got a good surprise, if they know what they're looking for) ...then have just let them sit for years. I hadn't opened one myself until this year, but KNOWING that I've gotten these two variations in ALL 3 BOXES, I'll probably be opening the rest... As, any two "Hand Over" Whiten or Storm Davis w/�, would pay for what I get for a box...

Unfortunately, I don't seem to have boxes with either of the white borders, nor the Boyd black flag tip, nor Joe Morgan 87... which, along with the A*B* backs seem to be some of the toughest.

Pat R · #3 05-30-2025, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CMGsBBCs

These Cello Boxes, I did get all at the same time, and probably sold 4-5 before... (so those people probably got a good surprise, if they know what they're looking for) ...then have just let them sit for years. I hadn't opened one myself until this year, but KNOWING that I've gotten these two variations in ALL 3 BOXES, I'll probably be opening the rest... As, any two "Hand Over" Whiten or Storm Davis w/�, would pay for what I get for a box...

Unfortunately, I don't seem to have boxes with either of the white borders, nor the Boyd black flag tip, nor Joe Morgan 87... which, along with the A*B* backs seem to be some of the toughest.

But did they come from the same case? If they did it's odd that 1 box had both variations, 1 box had only the Whiten and another box only had the Davis because both of them are from the E* sheet.

CMGsBBCs · #4 06-02-2025, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat R

But did they come from the same case? If they did it's odd that 1 box had both variations, 1 box had only the Whiten and another box only had the Davis because both of them are from the E* sheet.

I just know I got them all at one local auction in Western PA in the late 1990s or early 2000's... so I can't say for sure if they were from the same case, as I didn't buy anything sealed... so someone else could have moved things around before... I don't think the individual boxes have any sort of markings to tell if they were from the same case or even factory... but they are the 24 packs per box, 34 cards per pack (no gum), 99c cello.

BuccaneersDen · #5 07-13-2025, 12:41 PM

Would anyone happen to know when Topps changed from wax packs in the 36ct. boxes to the cello type packaging during the production run of this set?
I only ask as I have been opening both types of boxes and am finding the glow back versions in abundance within the cellophane packs (11 sometimes 12 GB's per 15 card pack, but never less than half). Not a bad thing as I would like to put a glow back set together. Has anyone else found similar results?

Pat R · #6 07-13-2025, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BuccaneersDen

Would anyone happen to know when Topps changed from wax packs in the 36ct. boxes to the cello type packaging during the production run of this set?
I only ask as I have been opening both types of boxes and am finding the glow back versions in abundance within the cellophane packs (11 sometimes 12 GB's per 15 card pack, but never less than half). Not a bad thing as I would like to put a glow back set together. Has anyone else found similar results?

I don't think there was a direct change over. For the most part there are more glow backs in the cello packs but I've had boxes of cello's where all of the cards were no glow. In almost all instances if all the packs in a box came from that box and packs weren't added from another box to make a full box all the packs will be the same as far as glow no glow backs. If you open a pack and only the C* sheet cards are no glow all of the packs in that box will have no glow C* sheet cards and the rest of the sheet codes in that box will be glow backs.

BuccaneersDen · #7 08-13-2025, 05:51 PM

You are correct sir, I think that is exactly what happened in that box. Was the F* sheet the didn't glow. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Pat R

I don't think there was a direct change over. For the most part there are more glow backs in the cello packs but I've had boxes of cello's where all of the cards were no glow. In almost all instances if all the packs in a box came from that box and packs weren't added from another box to make a full box all the packs will be the same as far as glow no glow backs. If you open a pack and only the C* sheet cards are no glow all of the packs in that box will have no glow C* sheet cards and the rest of the sheet codes in that box will be glow backs.

sthoemke · #8 07-14-2025, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BuccaneersDen

Would anyone happen to know when Topps changed from wax packs in the 36ct. boxes to the cello type packaging during the production run of this set?
I only ask as I have been opening both types of boxes and am finding the glow back versions in abundance within the cellophane packs (11 sometimes 12 GB's per 15 card pack, but never less than half). Not a bad thing as I would like to put a glow back set together. Has anyone else found similar results?

I remember a pallet of cello packs at a grocery store before seeing wax packs hit the market.

I had bought a bunch of the cellos, and noticed that some cards had the bold logo, while other didn't, but didn't think much of it at the time. Of course, I had no clue about the glow-back cards back then.

aelefson · #9 07-14-2025, 09:48 AM

Hi-

I do not know if this information helps, but I figured I would share. I recently opened a factory sealed set. I did not get any earlier Topps cards. For variations, I got none of the dark logo backs, all of the E/Fs, none of the checklist variations, none of the rare border variants, none of the stat variations, and the Whiten has his hand in the border. Below is my Boyd as I am not sure which version it is.

Alan

BuccaneersDen · #10 08-13-2025, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sthoemke

I remember a pallet of cello packs at a grocery store before seeing wax packs hit the market.

I had bought a bunch of the cellos, and noticed that some cards had the bold logo, while other didn't, but didn't think much of it at the time. Of course, I had no clue about the glow-back cards back then.

I am in Canada, and until very recently never saw the 15-card cello packs. Back then wax for both topps & o-pee-chee. Just happened to pick up a couple of boxes at the spring Expo in Toronto. Thanks for your reply.

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