2028 National Headed to Detroit or Atlanta?

[CurtisFlood]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

AI gave me a good title for this missive.

But as noted, this is for the dealers to vote on and as such, we can have our opinion but it is up to the voters.

Detroit has not hosted an NSCC since 1981 and that was during the baseball strike and Atlanta has not hosted an NSCC since 1999.

The real key for either location is to avoid the perils of Atlantic City from being difficult to get to and then being worried about leaving the facility to go anywhere.

For example, Chicago is well known for some rough areas but Rosemont, the suburb near O'Hare is reasonably safe for people coming in. Detroit is improving as a city but again how is the area NEAR the show. If it's a suburb, then you are probably in a good situation.

Downtown Atlanta can certainly hold enough people but again, how is the infrastructure for the dealers and the collectors.

Without knowing the details of the bids, we can only make some guesstimations but not an answer.

Regards
Rich

Rich: The union was a problem last time I did a show in Atlanta. They had to haul your merchandise and showcases, etc. in and when the show closed haul it out. I had problems getting them to help as they seemed to be waiting for a bribe to get them to help. That was in 2000 at the All Star Fanfest Show, not sure how that will fly now. I am sure that the collecting community is a lot stronger in the south now than it was then.

[sayheykid54]

DETROIT. An absolutely fantastic downtown area. Detroit hosted the draft two years ago and it was incredible!

[ncinin]

Originally Posted by CurtisFlood

Rich: The union was a problem last time I did a show in Atlanta. They had to haul your merchandise and showcases, etc. in and when the show closed haul it out. I had problems getting them to help as they seemed to be waiting for a bribe to get them to help. That was in 2000 at the All Star Fanfest Show, not sure how that will fly now. I am sure that the collecting community is a lot stronger in the south now than it was then.

At the 1999 Atlanta NSCC you were able to load your inventory in and out of the show. I assume each show negotiates the level of union participation at some convention centers

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

I am sure dealers who attended the last National in Cleveland will be asking about union workers no matter where the show is headed, and the answer will be a resounding "No" if there's a union.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

I am sure dealers who attended the last National in Cleveland will be asking about union workers no matter where the show is headed, and the answer will be a resounding "No" if there's a union.

I had no union issues in Cleveland and hadn't heard of any.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I had no union issues in Cleveland and hadn't heard of any.

Forgive me; am I confusing venues? Could have sworn it was the last time in Cleveland where they were refusing to let people take their own material in and out.

[edhans]

There were no issues last year. There were in years past.

[SAllen2556]

Glad to see the Detroit site is downtown. Seriously, if you haven't been to Detroit in 5 years or more, it really, truly has transformed into an actual city. If the National was in November, I'd say go somewhere else. But in late July, I guarantee you'll enjoy it, especially if you rent a car to see some sites like the Motown museum and the art institute. Traffic here is non-existent compared to Atlanta. New bars and restaurants are everywhere. There's an amazing riverwalk, right outside the door of the convention center.

I grew up, went to school, and worked in Detroit, and every time I go downtown these days I can't believe it's the same city.

[isiahfan]

Huntington Place is 2,400,000-square-foot (220,000 m2) in size and has 723,000 square feet (67,200 m2) of exhibition space, with 623,000 square feet (57,900 m2) contiguous.[4] It previously featured an arena, Cobo Arena, which hosted various concerts, sporting events, and other events.[3] In 2015, the facility completed a renovation that repurposed the Cobo Arena space, adding additional meeting halls, a glass atrium with a view of the Detroit riverfront, and the 40,000-square-foot (3,700 m2) Grand Riverview Ballroom.[5][6]

It is served by the Detroit People Mover with its own station.[7] Huntington Place has several large, attached parking garages, as well as parking on the roof of the facility, and direct access to the Lodge Freeway.[8][9] The facility is located along the Detroit International Riverfront, and within walking distance of several downtown hotels.[10]

[CurtisFlood]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

Forgive me; am I confusing venues? Could have sworn it was the last time in Cleveland where they were refusing to let people take their own material in and out.

I made seven trips from my table to my trailer instead of 3 because the union would not allow us to break the two wheeler down and make it a four wheeler. That was pretty trash of them.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Very weird as I have a convertible hand truck too and nobody said a word to me.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

I am sure dealers who attended the last National in Cleveland will be asking about union workers no matter where the show is headed, and the answer will be a resounding "No" if there's a union.

Huntington is union. However, the q&a lists all non union activities which would cover 99% of exhibitors. You can set up your own area and unload at the loading docks using carts.

https://www.huntingtonplacedetroit.c...urniture%20etc.

[parkplace33]

Originally Posted by CurtisFlood

Rich: The union was a problem last time I did a show in Atlanta. They had to haul your merchandise and showcases, etc. in and when the show closed haul it out. I had problems getting them to help as they seemed to be waiting for a bribe to get them to help. That was in 2000 at the All Star Fanfest Show, not sure how that will fly now. I am sure that the collecting community is a lot stronger in the south now than it was then.

I have an image in my head of all these National Dealers Union busting in Atlanta